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goldtop
22-10-2012, 12:30 PM
I'm looking for a manual NSX with pop-ups (pre-facelift). Berlina Black and targa would be ideal, but I'll consider others, too.

Must be in good condition (I don't mind some work, but don't want a complete project), and with sound history.

Cash is waiting (genuinely). Contact via PM here.

goldtop
20-11-2012, 06:42 PM
Still looking

(by which I mean I sit forelornly at the computer with the 'For Sale' section open and pressing the Refresh button every 10 seconds) :)

Diesse 19
21-11-2012, 01:38 PM
I know the feeling Mr Goldtop, only too well.

Same goes for me but Im more flexible about colour!

Problem Child
21-11-2012, 03:41 PM
I know the feeling Mr Goldtop, only too well.

Same goes for me but Im more flexible about colour!

I wanted a black targa too, but was advised that "a good one" is more important than a black one. Got a red one instead and love it!

Silver Surfer
21-11-2012, 04:14 PM
Just get any colour good car available and 'wrap it' to the colour your like!
Simples!

SS

Nick Graves
21-11-2012, 05:05 PM
TBH, I was never really a fan of black/red & preferred single-colour ones; looked taller & more elegant.

But it has really grown on me & I rather like the F16/tomato soup look now!

If it's a good one, rip his arm off at the ankles...

nobby
22-11-2012, 08:35 AM
that yellow car is still for sale ... manual, pop ups and has a good history ... if you REALLY want an NSX badly at this moment in time you need to be more flexible in your thinking and make the effort to go look at whats out there; some nice cars around at the moment and they wont be about come mid 2013

goldtop
22-11-2012, 09:45 AM
The yellow one with 95000m? Well, it is a targa, but that's leggier than I'd like really. Which is presumably why it's still for sale.

If you look at which cars are selling quickly vs those that are languishing, you can see the three biggest factors: automatic transmission, accident damage and mileage.

WhyOne?
22-11-2012, 10:31 AM
The yellow one with 95000m?......If you look at which cars are selling quickly vs those that are languishing, you can see the three biggest factors: automatic transmission, accident damage and mileage.

I think that is fair and correct.

I also believe that colour is an issue, albeit to a lesser extent than than the factors you list.

Yellow is an acquired taste in any car. IMHO it looks good in certain climates - California and Florida for example. Less so in the good old UK. Just my 2p, as we all know colour choice is especially subjective.

Nick Graves
22-11-2012, 10:51 AM
I've always thought exactly the same - it's the quality of the light.

Having said that, you can get away with yellow on a car like the NSX in the UK.

Also, whilst it IS leggy, it's an NSX and unless you're planning to go repping in it, it's unlikely to rack up that many.

It's a bit of a cheapie, so it gives some insurance funds against repairs...

sorepaws
22-11-2012, 11:26 AM
If you look at which cars are selling quickly vs those that are languishing, you can see the three biggest factors: automatic transmission, accident damage and mileage.

...... and what is wrong with an Automatic! ?

(waits for Britalude and Chris BN for support )

goldtop
22-11-2012, 12:14 PM
...... and what is wrong with an Automatic! ?

(waits for Britalude and Chris BN for support )

Well, perhaps, nothing. I'm just pointing out that automatics take longer to sell (even at their bargain prices).

Senninha
22-11-2012, 12:32 PM
So you could go from this ...

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQWEQcygIJYgPrYxGx3rofROX85mblCp ZjBMa5PYrg3XulX_qhx_4_8Lmw:carshd.net/data/media/56/2001_acura_nsx_targa--yellow--front.jpg (http://www.nsxcb.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://carshd.net/data/media/56/2001_acura_nsx_targa--yellow--front.jpg&imgrefurl=http://carshd.net/img-2001-acura-nsx-targa--yellow--front-3819.htm&usg=__vM65bmxrRd8ySax2tL4iM5cHLSA=&h=960&w=1280&sz=469&hl=en&start=5&zoom=1&tbnid=A2Yt1CjU6AHvZM:&tbnh=113&tbnw=150&ei=dxmuULPTMPTB0gXiz4CQDA&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dyellow%2Bnsx%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa% 3DN%26gbv%3D2%26tbm%3Disch&um=1&itbs=1)

to this ....

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSWgxpgNdTNu0w184DVyFG9w78krzfxu e8x0uHOIE3f5_gX1QML5Uj3Q2AE:www.fantasycars.com/Acura_NSX/Acura_NSX_Photos/Acura_NSX_Photo_5/nsx5.jpg (http://www.nsxcb.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.fantasycars.com/Acura_NSX/Acura_NSX_Photos/Acura_NSX_Photo_5/nsx5.jpg&imgrefurl=http://184.172.194.66/~wheels12/wheels_forum/index.php%3Ftopic%3D99948.0&usg=__HA5R9j4PbOgBhUjsgyKWt0tJhvo=&h=323&w=550&sz=42&hl=en&start=17&zoom=1&tbnid=olw7xjzoENq0qM:&tbnh=78&tbnw=133&ei=qxmuULrPIdGU0QWU_IDIBA&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dblack%2Bnsx%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26gbv% 3D2%26tbm%3Disch&um=1&itbs=1)

thanx to these guys ...

http://www.colourmycar.net/

by using the savings .... and at 95k its nicely run in ... its good history, you could schedule a health check with Kaz and then bring it to the standards you 're looking for ... and its the ONLY way I know of getting a black pop up targa in the UK. In fact, the only black T I know of is a facelift car.

But if you're put off by the miles (we have plenty in the UK around 150k) then why haven't you bought Andy's Charlotte thats just had all the work completed?

regards, Paul

PS, I drove an auto when looking for mine and if I had the space and cash I'd have one for more regular use.

nobby
22-11-2012, 12:40 PM
a well serviced and maintained NSX will cover more miles than you will EVER get through ... depending on your budget you are going to find it difficult to buy a car with some form of mileage you have in mind ... you just have to read prime on what mileage is out there etc.

Again have you even made an attempt to view the yellow car and actually see an NSX in this colour?

I travelled from Belfast to Birmingham to see a yellow NSX and had NO interest in the colour, but when i saw it I fell in love with it. An NSX will carry yellow all day long and look well. and as discussed before if its really that bad (which its not) you can always wrap or respray!

THere is also the very clean red facelifted manual NSX that is for sale ... albeit it is Cat registered, this car is in excellent condition and yet it remains unseen by someone like yourself who wants an NSX.

and as paul pointed out, andy@vtec direct's car is up for grabs too ... a manual car with lots of history etc

Alot of NSX's are prone to accident damage (my car has had some minor damage in the past), due to age etc most cars will have had some form of repair work apart from those absolute garage queens ... imo you are putting too much emphasis and thought on things that should not come into play if the car is well maintained and presented and if you really want an NSX - There are genuine bargains and good cars out there whether its an autobox or not

goldtop
22-11-2012, 01:20 PM
FWIW, yes, I have seen the NSX in yellow (possibly a forumite's) - parked up in Orford on the Suffolk coast, one weekend about 2 years ago. I didn't like it then, and I don't like it now. But wrapping is an option. I definitely do NOT want a facelift car, and would also prefer to buy a car that, during my ownership, remains under 100,000m. And yes, I realise that I am limiting my options. The targa preference is clearly one that I am moveable on. Read my OP, and you wil see that I know the vital importance of a well-maintained NSX.

Please understand that I've been thinking about an NSX for well over 10yrs (only now do I have the right combination of cash and other circumstances).

If putting "really want" in bold is questioning how serious I am, then remember that when the (accident damaged) one came up at Grantham, I was cancelling business appts to go and see it the very next morning.

NSXGB
22-11-2012, 01:30 PM
You could always be very controversial and buy an 02 car and do a pop-up conversion. :-)

goldtop
22-11-2012, 02:26 PM
You could always be very controversial and buy an 02 car and do a pop-up conversion. :-)

All I need is a willing victim who wants to 'upgrade' his NA1 and is happy to pay royally for the NA2 bits...

(And I realise my 'schoolboy error' in saying NA1/NA2, when I really should have said pre-facelift and facelift). Ahem...

NSXGB
22-11-2012, 02:53 PM
That's the easy bit!

Nick Graves
22-11-2012, 03:57 PM
:D

I like the retro idea - sort of thing the Japanese used to do to Minis!

Senninha
22-11-2012, 04:50 PM
http://www.nsxcb.co.uk/showthread.php?10494-96-Manual-Charlotte-Green

I believe Andy has almost finished the refresh to this beauty ... have you been to see this yet? In the right light it looks black and has plenty of miles for you to enjoy before hitting 100k

Rgds, Paul

WhyOne?
22-11-2012, 05:44 PM
I definitely do NOT want a facelift car........

That was on my list of 'must haves'...along with a manual gearbox and FSH.

I think Simon's idea is brilliant...probably a few bob to be made on your side of the deal as well!!!!

britlude
22-11-2012, 06:40 PM
...... and what is wrong with an Automatic! ?

(waits for Britalude and Chris BN for support )


so i'm stuffed then with an undesirable gearbox, colour and mileage! oh well!

however what i do have is an NSX on the drive, and I'm about to go out in it!

What i learnt a long time ago, is that you can wait (and wait and wait) for the perfect 'ticks every single box' to appear (and probably be out of the price range when it does) or you can compromise and actually buy something to use!

so look at any cars that come up. the colour is only a colour, it's not really difficult to change these days with blue-peter sticky backed plastic.

want pop-up but only face-lift about? well people WILL take your arm off for the bits to face-lift theirs! they will probably even do the swap for you!!! (been done in America)

as for the good 'ol auto versus manual... always gets right on my wick! 'loose driver experience', 'less power'... who cares, it's an NSX, and to gain the 'experience' and 'power' you need to take it on a track anyway. and anyway peak power is exactly that 'peak', not where the car is used at in the real world!

the whole point of the design was it's a supercar your grandma can drive, easy and live-able on a daily basis. which i do every day. the only time the 'automatic' issue comes up is on forums, usually by people with a hatred of auto's before they got here! when they are all lined up and looking pretty at Silverstone, or Japfest, you tell me which are auto without looking inside!

i SO love the 'ooo, great car..... oh... its an auto' .... oh, you go get back in your vectra and sod off then!

rant over! lol

nobby
22-11-2012, 08:18 PM
Very true mate, and well said.



so i'm stuffed then with an undesirable gearbox, colour and mileage! oh well!

however what i do have is an NSX on the drive, and I'm about to go out in it!

What i learnt a long time ago, is that you can wait (and wait and wait) for the perfect 'ticks every single box' to appear (and probably be out of the price range when it does) or you can compromise and actually buy something to use!

so look at any cars that come up. the colour is only a colour, it's not really difficult to change these days with blue-peter sticky backed plastic.

as for the good 'ol auto versus manual... always gets right on my wick! 'loose driver experience', 'less power'... who cares, it's an NSX, and to gain the 'experience' and 'power' you need to take it on a track anyway. and anyway peak power is exactly that 'peak', not where the car is used at in the real world!

goldtop
22-11-2012, 08:39 PM
Well, this thread isn't going quite how I imagined it! :)



as for the good 'ol auto versus manual... always gets right on my wick! 'loose driver experience', 'less power'... who cares, it's an NSX, and to gain the 'experience' and 'power' you need to take it on a track anyway. and anyway peak power is exactly that 'peak', not where the car is used at in the real world!

the whole point of the design was it's a supercar your grandma can drive, easy and live-able on a daily basis. which i do every day. the only time the 'automatic' issue comes up is on forums, usually by people with a hatred of auto's before they got here! when they are all lined up and looking pretty at Silverstone, or Japfest, you tell me which are auto without looking inside!

i SO love the 'ooo, great car..... oh... its an auto' .... oh, you go get back in your vectra and sod off then!

rant over! lol

:) If you read what I wrote, you'll see that I simply observed that automatic transmission is a contributory factor to an NSX being for sale for quite a while instead of being snapped up. It's just supply and demand.

And FWIW, I've had and liked many automatics (mainly Mercedes, but also Hondas). I may end up with one (most likely yellow with significant accident history at the rate things are going), but it won't be for want of trying to get what I actually want.

jpspringall
22-11-2012, 10:33 PM
Or just have an auto license and then you won't know what your missing:-)

James

britlude
22-11-2012, 10:48 PM
apologies for the rant! I just get annoyed with constant 'oh God, not an auto, they're crap' theme that forums (here and US) seem to generate for no good reason!!

probably why perfectly good auto cars are less 'desirable' because of an undeserved stigma!

i'll be quiet now, and go plot how to make my car less desirable! lol (smiley face)

scottg
23-11-2012, 09:41 AM
apologies for the rant! I just get annoyed with constant 'oh God, not an auto, they're crap' theme that forums (here and US) seem to generate for no good reason!!

probably why perfectly good auto cars are less 'desirable' because of an undeserved stigma!

i'll be quiet now, and go plot how to make my car less desirable! lol (smiley face)

Mines an auto which I bought at probably 10-12k less than the same car would have been as a manual. Every time I drive it I smile partly as its a great car and partly because it represents such great value for money.

nobby
23-11-2012, 06:49 PM
i have no doubts that an auto NSX would still be a joy to drive as its manual counterpart ... and as stated before there are good examples out there that should be looked at if in the market for an NSX not just for the thread starter

Sudesh
23-11-2012, 07:33 PM
I almost went the auto/f-matic route before I bought my current manual car.

Even today I still quite like the idea of having one, I'd just like to do something with the gear knob and shift area and possibly do a paddle shift style gear change.

scottg
23-11-2012, 08:50 PM
I almost went the auto/f-matic route before I bought my current manual car.

Even today I still quite like the idea of having one, I'd just like to do something with the gear knob and shift area and possibly do a paddle shift style gear change.

I wish there was a nice aftermarket gear knob but the only options I can find look cheap and out of place. We need a clever nsx enthusiast with a modifying/hot rod background with a auto nsx to decide to come up with a solution (I wonder who that could be?)

britlude
23-11-2012, 09:48 PM
hmmm i wonder who you could be referring to???

scottg
23-11-2012, 10:12 PM
hmmm i wonder who you could be referring to???

When we've worked it out Britlude I recon we should trying and talk him into making a batch for auto owners.

Sudesh
23-11-2012, 10:13 PM
I wish there was a nice aftermarket gear knob but the only options I can find look cheap and out of place.

Yeah have to agree, I've seen quite a few, but noting looks overlay great. I've also seen some auto JDM NSXs with the manual gear gaiter fitted and the gear stalk altered to look like a manual, was the best I've seen yet, but not sure how they added the lock out, or maybe they just did away with it.

scottg
23-11-2012, 10:21 PM
Yeah have to agree, I've seen quite a few, but noting looks overlay great. I've also seen some auto JDM NSXs with the manual gear gaiter fitted and the gear stalk altered to look like a manual, was the best I've seen yet, but not sure how they added the lock out, or maybe they just did away with it.
That's the look I would like to get suddesh. I think a guy in the us did a conversion where he pushes down on the gear knob to work the lock out. That and a tyre R gaiter would be very cool.

NSXGB
23-11-2012, 10:34 PM
You'll probably find something Stateside...
http://www.prostreetonline.com/s/drivetrain_b~m-automatic-shifters.asp

Sudesh
23-11-2012, 10:39 PM
That's the look I would like to get suddesh. I think a guy in the us did a conversion where he pushes down on the gear knob to work the lock out. That and a tyre R gaiter would be very cool.

Yeah seen that, it would be even better i, you could adapt the lock electrically, as in, when you put your foot on the break you can move out of P. This is on my JDM 300ZX, and have seen it on many more cars over the years.

britlude
23-11-2012, 10:46 PM
I think a guy in the us did a conversion where he pushes down on the gear knob to work the lock out.

hmmm. wonder who suggested that to him??? lol

http://www.nsxprime.com/forum/showthread.php?t=536


Yeah seen that, it would be even better if you could adapt the lock electrically, as in when you put foot on break you can remove out of P. This is on my JDM 300ZX, and have seen it on many more cars over the years.

you have to do that anyway, there's a seperate solenoid lockout which won't allow the stick to come out of park without the brake lights on, as well as pressing the button on the knob. much the same as the ignition key won't come out unless the shifter is in park...

Sudesh
23-11-2012, 11:02 PM
hmmm. wonder who suggested that to him??? lol

http://www.nsxprime.com/forum/showthread.php?t=536



you have to do that anyway, there's a seperate solenoid lockout which won't allow the stick to come out of park without the brake lights on, as well as pressing the button on the knob. much the same as the ignition key won't come out unless the shifter is in park...

That must be a JDM specific thing? Well on the 300ZX it is, as my other UK 300ZX doesn't have the brake pedal switch or need for key in the ignition. Just the button.

britlude
23-11-2012, 11:26 PM
maybe it is a JDM thing.... on mine, there's a slot with a key symbol just behind the shifter that the ignition key can be inserted into, to disengage the extra solenoid shift-lock when the ignition or electrical system is off (ie flat battery)

pic robbed off prime to show what i mean....
http://www.nsxprime.com/photopost/data/500/NSX_Shift_Lock_Release.jpg

Sudesh
23-11-2012, 11:34 PM
maybe it is a JDM thing.... on mine, there's a slot with a key symbol just behind the shifter that the ignition key can be inserted into, to disengage the extra solenoid shift-lock when the ignition or electrical system is off (ie flat battery)

pic robbed off prime to show what i mean....
http://www.nsxprime.com/photopost/data/500/NSX_Shift_Lock_Release.jpg

My 300zx has something similar to that, not a key slot but hidden pin.

UK NSX doesn't have the key thing either. Another nice little addition to owning a JDM model.

scottg
24-11-2012, 09:30 AM
hmmm. wonder who suggested that to him??? lol

http://www.nsxprime.com/forum/showthread.php?t=536



you have to do that anyway, there's a seperate solenoid lockout which won't allow the stick to come out of park without the brake lights on, as well as pressing the button on the knob. much the same as the ignition key won't come out unless the shifter is in park...

Ok Jonathan sounds like the creative juices are flowing is it a mod you are thinking of taking on yourself?
My thoughts are to follow the thread you mentioned where a new centre shaft is made to take a manual knob so you could opt for a type R look with a shift boot etc.

scottg
24-11-2012, 10:46 AM
http://img.pistonheads.com.s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/honda/legend/ex/honda-legend-ex-4276092-3.jpg

I wonder if this would work from a Honda Legend?

Nick Graves
24-11-2012, 01:51 PM
Ah, you've found the source of bits for my NB1 proposal from around 2005...

scottg
24-11-2012, 02:19 PM
Ah, you've found the source of bits for my NB1 proposal from around 2005...

Great mind think alike

Senninha
09-03-2013, 11:34 PM
Hi Goldtop, you still on the hunt? PM your number, I may know of something of interest ...

jpspringall
10-03-2013, 09:54 AM
Hi Goldtop,

If you are still in the hunt, then F-Matic is back on the road, if you would like to go for a spin when I get it back from Honda in a week or two.
Currently undergoing the TB Change

J

goldtop
20-04-2013, 08:12 AM
(bumping)

Now back in England after a fantastic 4-week break in Japan (where, coincidentally, I saw just one NSX), and I've got more time to view. I've been back in touch with those guys who had SORNed/etc cars, but am interested to know if there are any more owners thinking about selling?

Same story as before - nothing to sell, cash purchase, no finance, etc. Pre-facelift only, and my ideal is a black targa with around 50,000m. But all cars considered. :)

(Looks like I missed a couple!)