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britlude
06-05-2014, 06:45 PM
A couple of times my car has decided it didn’t want to turn over on the key, repeated key turns or a jump pack sorted it in the short term, but investigation was needed! When the car decided it didn’t want to play ball after the car had been on charge, I knew something had to be done.

I knew the ignition switch was ok (that had been stripped/cleaned previously), so I decided to have a look at the starter motor itself!

Air filter box removed and a bit of double jointed spannering had the starter motor off the car.

Nippon Denso starters basic design is a solenoid which throws out the pinion gear to engage on the flywheel, then when the solenoid is virtually at full travel, and the gears meshed, a pair of contacts are shorted with a copper ring and this sends the power to the motor. Unfortunately for us, this switching of heavy currents means the contacts can be spark eroded, but fortunately for us, Nippon Denso made the solenoid switch part easily replaceable!

Unfortunately there are many types of starter motor, so I checked the contacts and looked for numbers!

Starter motor….
http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn41/thisYup/nsx%20stuff/nsx%20starter%20motor/2014-05-06-4795Small.jpg (http://s301.photobucket.com/user/thisYup/media/nsx%20stuff/nsx%20starter%20motor/2014-05-06-4795Small.jpg.html)

And the label on the motor…
http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn41/thisYup/nsx%20stuff/nsx%20starter%20motor/2014-04-28-4704Small.jpg (http://s301.photobucket.com/user/thisYup/media/nsx%20stuff/nsx%20starter%20motor/2014-04-28-4704Small.jpg.html)

Pretty tough to see, but with this, Prime, and the joys of the interweb, I got to 128000-7770!

The terminal one side was pretty eroded, you can see here the tip of one is about half the thickness it should be! It had a nice step, ideal for catching the edge of the contact washer, so as an interim measure it was blended in, and the contact surface cleaned up!

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn41/thisYup/nsx%20stuff/nsx%20starter%20motor/2014-05-06-4803Small.jpg (http://s301.photobucket.com/user/thisYup/media/nsx%20stuff/nsx%20starter%20motor/2014-05-06-4803Small.jpg.html)
(…the bottom one!)

britlude
06-05-2014, 06:46 PM
The web was searched, and the replacement parts ordered from http://www.repairkitsuk.com , a new pair of contacts and solenoid plunger for £21.15 delivered! Far better than any Honda options!
And it’s upgraded too!
http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn41/thisYup/nsx%20stuff/nsx%20starter%20motor/2014-05-06-4809.jpg (http://s301.photobucket.com/user/thisYup/media/nsx%20stuff/nsx%20starter%20motor/2014-05-06-4809.jpg.html)
And comes with simple instructions too….
http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn41/thisYup/nsx%20stuff/nsx%20starter%20motor/2014-05-06-4798Small.jpg (http://s301.photobucket.com/user/thisYup/media/nsx%20stuff/nsx%20starter%20motor/2014-05-06-4798Small.jpg.html)

Then it was just a case of following the steps and taking pix just like those on the instructions….
3 bolts and cover off…
http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn41/thisYup/nsx%20stuff/nsx%20starter%20motor/2014-05-06-4799Small.jpg (http://s301.photobucket.com/user/thisYup/media/nsx%20stuff/nsx%20starter%20motor/2014-05-06-4799Small.jpg.html)

Solenoid plunger removed…
http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn41/thisYup/nsx%20stuff/nsx%20starter%20motor/2014-05-06-4800Small.jpg (http://s301.photobucket.com/user/thisYup/media/nsx%20stuff/nsx%20starter%20motor/2014-05-06-4800Small.jpg.html)

britlude
06-05-2014, 06:46 PM
Bolts and bits removed, and the new items laid out…. (not sure if I was short changed on the washer/insulator pack, but i had the important bits I needed!)
http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn41/thisYup/nsx%20stuff/nsx%20starter%20motor/2014-05-06-4801Small.jpg (http://s301.photobucket.com/user/thisYup/media/nsx%20stuff/nsx%20starter%20motor/2014-05-06-4801Small.jpg.html)

New kit all fitted and ready for the lid to be refitted!
http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn41/thisYup/nsx%20stuff/nsx%20starter%20motor/2014-05-06-4808Small.jpg (http://s301.photobucket.com/user/thisYup/media/nsx%20stuff/nsx%20starter%20motor/2014-05-06-4808Small.jpg.html)

Just then it’s a case of refitting and ‘hurrah’ should be good for another 20 years!

PeterW
31-07-2016, 08:19 PM
I've just completed the same repair on my NSX. I got the parts from the supplier recommended by Jonathan, www.repairkitsuk.com. To try and speed the job up, I ordered the repair kit before I'd got the starter motor off the car. I took a punt and ordered the same part number as Jonathan's. Unfortunately I punted wrong! My starter motor has Denso part number 228000-4650 - Jonathan's was 128000-7770. The new plunger was 5 mm shorter than my old one. No worries though, Carl at repairkitsuk was happy to exchange it. Now it's all back together and working fine.
If you need to do this job, I'd recommend having the old parts in hand and a pair of Vernier callipers, and giving Carl a call to confirm the dimensions of your parts. His number is on the web site. Excellent service and quite a saving compared to £751+VAT Honda UK price for a new motor. Thanks Jonathan!

Peter

goldnsx
17-12-2016, 03:59 PM
I've also ordered a kit from the UK guys stated above. The installation was straightforward. My 91 had a 1280... starter. The copper thingies had a different shape (smaller than in the kit) but no worries here. The plunger was identical. Good to go for the next decades. Happy DIY!