failing rear coil pack solution???

[britlude]

it's quite often mentioned amongst the appalling design flaws of the NSX, the rear coil packs getting wet is high on the list, so i decided to do something about it!

my car has a rusty coilpack on the rear bank, and i know others have suffered.... the rear coil cover is in place, and the rubber seal is there and silicon greased accordingly, so i thought i'd make a shield of some type to stop the water getting near in the first place!

when the car is moving the water basically comes down the rear hatch and onto the rear garnish. the water that goes through the vents has some degree of channelling to direct the water away... i say 'some degree' as an definite lip on the panel beneath would have helped here! the main problem i've noticed is at standstill the water drops off the rear hatch onto the flat shelf of the garnish directly under the hatch edge. this flat shelf pretty much encourages the water to drain down the recesses that lead down to the garnish mounting screws. this isn't a problem on the passenger side as there's nothing for the water to drip on, but the drivers side it pretty much encourages the water to go onto the engine!!

so i made myself a but of guttering to direct the water away!

version 1....
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4412/36343017646_cd549c59c5_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/XnvsYw)2014-05-29-4900 (https://flic.kr/p/XnvsYw) by jon sutherland (https://www.flickr.com/photos/152809076@N06/), on Flickr

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4349/35991069840_0824e9c7c3_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/WQpD9U)2014-05-23-4872 (https://flic.kr/p/WQpD9U) by jon sutherland (https://www.flickr.com/photos/152809076@N06/), on Flickr

the shield mounts on the garnish screws.... keeping it neat and simple!

unfortunately Kare saw this at the North Weald honda do, after trying a similar solution, and asked if i could make him some (3, some people have too many NSX!)

so the idea was evolved, making it bigger and more effective....
cardboard mock-up....
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4402/35991069880_88e656c61f_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/WQpDaA)2014-05-23-4870 (https://flic.kr/p/WQpDaA) by jon sutherland (https://www.flickr.com/photos/152809076@N06/), on Flickr

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4419/36343017716_e7824fa77f_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/XnvsZJ)2014-05-23-4871 (https://flic.kr/p/XnvsZJ) by jon sutherland (https://www.flickr.com/photos/152809076@N06/), on Flickr

[britlude]

the Mk2 prototype was then made in aluminium.....
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4400/35991069720_7388b75a65_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/WQpD7Q)2014-05-29-4901 (https://flic.kr/p/WQpD7Q) by jon sutherland (https://www.flickr.com/photos/152809076@N06/), on Flickr

and mounted in the car.....

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4421/36343017916_00f71fb63d_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/Xnvt4b)2014-05-29-4907 (https://flic.kr/p/Xnvt4b) by jon sutherland (https://www.flickr.com/photos/152809076@N06/), on Flickr

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4336/36387498935_09d2f643fb_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/XrrrHi)2014-05-29-4904 (https://flic.kr/p/XrrrHi) by jon sutherland (https://www.flickr.com/photos/152809076@N06/), on Flickr

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4438/35579558183_f764708f7d_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/Wd3x5k)2014-05-29-4905 (https://flic.kr/p/Wd3x5k) by jon sutherland (https://www.flickr.com/photos/152809076@N06/), on Flickr

nice, neat and def gets wet when it rains, so is doing something! a bit of rubber edging was added later...

from the experience with Kare, and subsequently Phil (who needed 2!!!) i now know that it won't fit on a supercharged car without modifications, as fuel pressure regulators get in the way, and it won't fit on a NA2 car without tweaks as there are a couple of extra pipes involved!

i do know that all the ones i have made fit on a JDM NA1 beautifully (smiley face, but i've run out of 'pics' for this post)

[NSXGB]

Well done, often thought about doing this but never got round to it, well done Jonathan, if I ever do get round to it I can copy this. :)

[britlude]

made 5, got enough bits to do another 3...

[NSXGB]

Go on then, let me know how much & I'll have one...

[AR]

Go on then, let me know how much & I'll have one...


I made a few in GRP but there seemed to be no market for it. Most people just go lalala a la Naughty Boy when any NSX faults are mentioned!!!

[Philip]

I would like to know how much and order one too.

[WhyOne?]

I would be very happy to act as sponsor and guinea-pig for one to fit an NA2 car Jonathan (please!)

[britlude]

looks like i'll have to get some more material then as i have 4 requests.....
NSXGB
Nicjwim
Squadron leader

and Whyone? Na2 prototype mule!

the shields are in plain aluminium, fit my car, but may need slight tweaks to fit yours, as i don't have access to every car with any/every mod available!

following the usual NSX universal pricing policy, and my want for a respray, i'll pitch these at £490 each, if i get another 4 orders i can adjust the price to £590 :)

not really.... £30 will cover it, tho i'll have to work out what postage will be if necessary!

[NSXGB]

....you should make them in CF....then you could charge £1500 each for them... :)


looks like i'll have to get some more material then as i have 4 requests.....
NSXGB
Nicjwim
Squadron leader

and Whyone? Na2 prototype mule!

the shields are in plain aluminium, fit my car, but may need slight tweaks to fit yours, as i don't have access to every car with any/every mod available!

following the usual NSX universal pricing policy, and my want for a respray, i'll pitch these at £490 each, if i get another 4 orders i can adjust the price to £590 :)

not really.... £30 will cover it, tho i'll have to work out what postage will be if necessary!

[WhyOne?]

Sounds good to me Jonathan, thank you....just let me know what you need to know from me.

Hopefully a few of us (Simon and I for example) can arrange to pay for delivery in beer and pies?

[NSXGB]

...there was a threat of a SE Mini meet soon...seems to have gone quiet...

[WhyOne?]

True....I'll go and poke the thread.

[Kaz-kzukNA1]

As always, nice work, Jonathan.

I tested this long time ago with the engine cover off to monitor how the water flows on the engine from around the area of black plastic vent. It was not the era of smart phone so no easy access to video recording....
The water can actually splash all the way to the strut tower bar if you use high pressure with lots of water.

Addition to the IG coil cover gasket, it is very important to first install the IG coil cable holder properly to let the two metal cylinder spacers sit at the same height. One of them sits on top of the cable holder and the other one doesn't so when you install the IG coil cover on top of them, you could warp the IG coil cover and creating uneven force on the cover gasket.
Sometimes, I saw the engine missing these two spacers or installed the spacers at uneven height causing the crack on the IG coil cover or creating uneven pressure on the gasket allowing extra water to enter.


Even if the water enters under the IG coil cover, it won't flood the space underneath.
There are two big holes at the side of the valve cover acting as the drainage and the lower side of the IG coil cover edge doesn't have the gasket so if enough water entered the area, it will be simply drained out but because of the way the engine is tilted, the area will be kept damp.

As long as the IG coil cover, cover gasket, spacer were installed properly, the IG coil body torqued down properly and in correct orientation (air vent should point upward, marked FR for the front bank and RR for the rear bank), the moisture is very unlikely to enter the spark plug hole.
When I tested it with the IG coil cover nut/bolt slightly loosened on purposely, the water didn't touch the IG coil head.


However, this dampness is the problem.
If the engine was not started regularly or only running for a short period before the area got completely dry, eventually it will cause rust on the metal layer of the IG coil body.
Probably, it's related to the position of the drain hole and hot air flow but most of the time, #3cyl IG coil shows better condition than the ones at #1 and #2cyl.

I think condensation on the metal surface is also happening if the area was damp and the air temperature changed big enough between day and night.

So, addition to the nice cover that Jonathan made, if you apply silicone grease around the IG coil cover gasket, metal surface of the IG coil body, around the rubber tube outer surface and just small amount at the internal wall of the tube, you should be fine for many years.

Of course, it will help massively by driving your NSX regularly but at least, you can minimise the issue by running the engine (and even going out for a short spin) after washing the car or try to drive the car in dry weather fairly soon after you drove in the wet condition.



https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-RcTlHGOg8Wo/T6PDDqSJBTI/AAAAAAAACEc/OU4iBE44AsY/s640/IMG_0089.JPG https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-LjBoP9Z9raY/T6PDDOrjD1I/AAAAAAAACEU/HCad3jJ4qls/s640/IMG_0088.JPG
I didn't act early enough so got some rust on my rear bank IG coils but by keep doing the above measures, even after 20 years with more than 145K miles, still looks in healthy condition. They are the original ones from when the car left the factory.

Kaz

[nigel]

I might fancy one of your covers if you'd give me a price and post it to me here in the colonies.
Post code 46069, Sheridan, Indiana, just outside,north of Indy.

Cheers
nigel

[britlude]

i've made 3 so that's....

NSXGB
Nicjwim
Squadron leader

pencilled in, once i've worked out a box to put it in i'll get the postage costs for Nicjwim and Nigel and let you know....

hopefully i'll get a closer look at Whyone or Phils NA2 to work out the tweaks... unless Phill is ahead of me on that one!

better ask for confirmation....
NSXGB
Nicjwim
Squadron leader

are you NA1 or NA2?... from what ive seen NA2 has extra piping under the garnish on the alternator side of the engine bay....

the extra pipes in the bottom right corner

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT75eX5ygpB08wKaVETjXd0SB4E-OGeVlPlLCeVue8E105dxvEsBw

whereas this one (like mine) hasn't got them!

http://image.hondatuningmagazine.com/f/16626067+w750+st0/htup_0903_19_z+acura_nsx_zanardi_edition+engine_ba y.jpg

[WhyOne?]

Do these help at all Jonathan?

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3906/14653644793_d4ed36e7cc_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/ojTL5a)2R4C5365 (https://flic.kr/p/ojTL5a) by Whyone (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5482/14447313457_fe63c982ed_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/o1EfXk)2R4C5369 (https://flic.kr/p/o1EfXk) by Whyone (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr

[Philip]

I confirm i'll have one thank you. Let me know where to send the money too.

cheers,

Phil

[britlude]

I confirm i'll have one thank you. Let me know where to send the money too.

cheers,

Phil

i actually meant confirm NA1 without pipes or NA2 with the extra plumbing!!!!

but thanks for confirming :)

[Philip]

Oops. na1 please.

[nigel]

Thanks Jonathan,

Let me know the total and i'll get your payment sorted.

My car is a '92. GPW.

Cheers
nigel

[UnhuZ]

Hi,

count me in too... give me a total shipped to portugal and a paypal account so i can send the payment.

i was a victim of this design flaw, back in 2005. it caused a 3000 GBP engine fix...

Kaz, even with all that care you say, after the engine fix, the spark plug hole still got wet... i made tests
and the water entered only when washing the car....riving in the rain didn't made any water to go under the
coil cover.

My solution was to protect the bottom of all coils with some type of heat resistant foam... when the coil
was torqued, the tape sealed the whole under side of it... with the coil cover out, i spillled a bucket full of water
on the rear cylinder head ...then i removed each coil and everything was dry under it...it still works, but i prefer a
good solid long term solution.

Thanks,
Nuno

[PeterW]

Hi,

Please could you count me in too, if you're not already swamped with requests! 1996 manual, so NA1.

Thanks
Peter

[britlude]

right, latest list....

NSXGB.... NA1 (i think!)
Nicjwim.... 97 Sebring Silver Ex Honda show car so i presume NA2?
Squadron leader... NA1
Whyone?.... NA2
nigel... NA1
UnhuZ.... the stuff you're selling is NA2... is your car????
PeterW... NA1



UK postage is £10 special delivery (should be next day!)
Nigel... Indiana postage is £18 tracked and signed for
UnhuZ... Portugal postage is £12.50 tracked and signed for

i have enough material to do another 10 trays, so have 6 spaces left.....

NA1 versions are not a problem, NA2 versions you'll have to wait until I see a NA2, just to make sure!

[UnhuZ]

Hi,

my car is a 97 one, but in Europe the year is determined by the first license date.

The chassi, VIN, shows that it's from 94, but i think it was assembled early 95, because
i have some QC test stickers with late 94 dates.

basically, it's a 94 - 95 NA1 coupe :) :)

Thanks,
Nuno

[Mistercorn]

I'll have an NA2 version whenever they are ready.

MC

[britlude]

a.NSXGB.... NA1 (i think!)
b.Nicjwim.... 97 Sebring Silver Ex Honda show car so i presume NA2?
c.Squadron leader... NA1

1.Whyone?.... NA2
2.nigel... NA1
3.UnhuZ.... NA1
4.PeterW... NA1
5.mistercorn.. NA2

5 spaces left..

[lotusolly]

Go on then I'll have one too :)

a.NSXGB.... NA1 (i think!)
b.Nicjwim.... 97 Sebring Silver Ex Honda show car so i presume NA2?
c.Squadron leader... NA1

1.Whyone?.... NA2
2.nigel... NA1
3.UnhuZ.... NA1
4.PeterW... NA1
5.mistercorn.. NA2
6.lotusolly...NA1

4 spaces left..

[L696ULO]

Me too please

a.NSXGB.... NA1 (i think!)
b.Nicjwim.... 97 Sebring Silver Ex Honda show car so i presume NA2?
c.Squadron leader... NA1

1.Whyone?.... NA2
2.nigel... NA1
3.UnhuZ.... NA1
4.PeterW... NA1
5.mistercorn.. NA2
6.lotusolly...NA1
7. L696ULO .......NA1


3 spaces left..

[greenberet]

I'll take one too, please.

a.NSXGB.... NA1 (i think!)
b.Nicjwim.... 97 Sebring Silver Ex Honda show car so i presume NA2?
c.Squadron leader... NA1

1.Whyone?.... NA2
2.nigel... NA1
3.UnhuZ.... NA1
4.PeterW... NA1
5.mistercorn.. NA2
6.lotusolly...NA1
7. L696ULO .......NA1
8. greenberet ....NA1

2 spaces left...

[andystevo]

Me too please.

a.NSXGB.... NA1 (i think!)
b.Nicjwim.... 97 Sebring Silver Ex Honda show car so i presume NA2?
c.Squadron leader... NA1

1.Whyone?.... NA2
2.nigel... NA1
3.UnhuZ.... NA1
4.PeterW... NA1
5.mistercorn.. NA2
6.lotusolly...NA1
7. L696ULO .......NA1
8. greenberet ....NA1
9. andystevo ....NA2

1 space left...

[Mark N]

Hi Jonathan PM sent

[britlude]

a.NSXGB.... NA1 (i think!)
b.Nicjwim.... 97 Sebring Silver Ex Honda show car so i presume NA2?
c.Squadron leader... NA1

1.Whyone?.... NA2
2.nigel... NA1
3.UnhuZ.... NA1
4.PeterW... NA1
5.mistercorn.. NA2
6.lotusolly...NA1
7. L696ULO .......NA1
8. greenberet ....NA1
9. andystevo ....NA2
10. Mark N....NA1

that's them all filled for the moment.... I'll sort out what's what and let people know in due course... NA2 will have to be a little more patient....

[WhyOne?]

Come on...where's my bl**dy guttering!!!

[WhyOne?]

............;)

[nobby]

Hi

any chance of squeezing me in on this list?
not been scouring the boards as much of late
would gate to miss out!
my car is na1 and have had to replace my rear bank coils :(


a.NSXGB.... NA1 (i think!)
b.Nicjwim.... 97 Sebring Silver Ex Honda show car so i presume NA2?
c.Squadron leader... NA1

1.Whyone?.... NA2
2.nigel... NA1
3.UnhuZ.... NA1
4.PeterW... NA1
5.mistercorn.. NA2
6.lotusolly...NA1
7. L696ULO .......NA1
8. greenberet ....NA1
9. andystevo ....NA2
10. Mike N....NA1

that's them all filled foe the moment.... I'll sort out what's what and let people know in due course... NA2 will have to be a little more patient....

[britlude]

Come on...where's my bl**dy guttering!!!


flat packed at the moment, i can send it as is if you wish ;)

sooner i see a NA2, the sooner i can work out the pattern, this might be at the mini meet if i make it, or at silverstone! either way it is unlikely that they will be ready before/at silverstone! (it is only 9 days away!)



Nobby... i should be able to make you one, but can't tell you as your inbox is full!

[NSXGB]

a.NSXGB.... NA1
b.Nicjwim.... 97 Sebring Silver Ex Honda show car so i presume NA2?
c.Squadron leader... NA1
1.Whyone?.... NA2
2.nigel... NA1
3.UnhuZ.... NA1
4.PeterW... NA1
5.mistercorn.. NA2
6.lotusolly...NA1
7. L696ULO .......NA1
8. greenberet ....NA1
9. andystevo ....NA2
10. Mike N....NA1

[nobby]

Hi Jonathan

Thanks mate

inbox cleared and sent u pm

good stuff

let me know payment info

regards

andrew


flat packed at the moment, i can send it as is if you wish ;)

sooner i see a NA2, the sooner i can work out the pattern, this might be at the mini meet if i make it, or at silverstone! either way it is unlikely that they will be ready before/at silverstone! (it is only 9 days away!)



Nobby... i should be able to make you one, but can't tell you as your inbox is full!

[Pride]

Add me also to your list please.
Cheers

[britlude]

Right then
.. With pride's addition (presuming NA1) I've 8 Na1 and 4 NA2 to make so I'm closing the list for a mo til i get these sorted and see how it goes from there!

Phil... I did get the pics thanks, so i can at least sort a na2 prototype/mock up.... I'll pm you later, my phone won't let me!!!

[nicjwin]

Mine is NA1 I think 95 spec on the parts .
Although Dec97 .

[britlude]

current list..... and ones going places i can take them to!!

a.NSXGB............. NA1...mini meet
b.Nicjwim.............NA1
c.Squadron leader. NA1.. SSC

1.Whyone?.............. NA2
2.nigel................ NA1
3.UnhuZ...............NA1
4.PeterW............. NA1
5.mistercorn............ NA2
6.lotusolly.............NA1... mini meet or SSC
7. L696ULO ...........NA1.... SSC
8. greenberet .......NA1
9. andystevo ...........NA2
10. Mark N.............NA1... mini meet or SSC

aa. Nobby............ NA1
bb. Pride............. NA1

[WhyOne?]

Good morning Jonathan - I will be at the mini-meet next Tuesday evening if you want to do any NA2 measuring / prototype tuning.

[britlude]

i have 8 early NA1, pre LEV, no extra pipe versions done, so the 1st 8 will have PM's soon to organise stuff!

a.NSXGB............. NA1...mini meet
b.Nicjwim.............NA1
c.Squadron leader. NA1.. SSC


2.nigel................ NA1
3.UnhuZ...............NA1
4.PeterW............. NA1

6.lotusolly.............NA1... mini meet or SSC
7. L696ULO ...........NA1.... SSC




is anyone else on the main list going to the mini-meet or SSC who's not already noted as such?????

[UnhuZ]

Hi,

PM replied and money sent ;)

Thanks,
Nuno

[Mark N]

Hi Jonathan

I will be at the mini meet and SSC

Mark

[PeterW]

Hi Jonathan,
I received my rain thingy in the post today. Brilliant! The craftsmanship of the rain thingy is matched by the craftsmanship of the packaging!

12241

No longer will I have to worry that I will forget to remove the piece of plastic sheet I put over the back of the engine when I wash the NSX. I used to worry one day I'd forget to remove it and would end up with shredded melted plastic all over my engine.

Many thanks.

Peter

[britlude]

latest update....

nigel... check your inbox!!!

the prototype for the NA2/LEV/extra plumbing covers is made and i'll be checking it at silverstone when no-ones looking ;)

the rest of the early model trays are done, but i won't be able to post them before silverstone (i'm going up straight after work thursday!!!) so they will be sorted after, but i'll PM details to those concerned!

ta!

[UnhuZ]

Hi,

got it :) man... over hundreds of packages i received over the years, yours sure is
in my top 3 of the best well packed ones... incredible....

Thanks,
Nuno

[nobby]

yes safely received ... many thanks mate. Assume it is the tray as have NOT opened, but the shape looks familiar from your design pics :)

[britlude]

everybody that was on the list should now have a PM from me....

[Sudesh]

Great work Jonathan, brilliant job. this was an idea I toyed with when I had my car, mentioned it a few years back to Andrew and the other owners here.

[Blulude98]

I also received mine today,many thanks Jon awesome job you did on the item and on how you packed it. It came all the way to Australia undamaged!
Many thanks again Jon keep up the good work!

[exiges1]

Are you taking orders for the next batch yet?

[Hagasan]

Hi Jonathan, I forgot to let you know earlier.. Your modified version for my blower pipework fitted perfectly straight off. Well done on cardboard and thumb reckoning :-)

Cheers,

Gary

[britlude]

blulude98..... glad it arrived ok and all is well :)

exiges1.... i can make another if required, thought i'll have to get some bits in!!

Hagasan... hurrah!!!!

[exiges1]

Thanks, in which case I'd like one when you've time.
Can you send me payment details etc.
Cheers,
Tony.

[paulc]

blulude98..... glad it arrived ok and all is well :)

exiges1.... i can make another if required, thought i'll have to get some bits in!!

Hagasan... hurrah!!!!

Hi Jonathan, if you are making more I will have one off you.

[mutley]

Starting to feel left out, so if there is another batch going, I'll take 1 too

Jim

[britlude]

ok... i'll have to check how many i have material for..... i'll need to know what flavour of NSX you have, NA1, or NA2 with the extra plumbing where the rain guard goes....

1. exiges1
2. paulc
3.mutley

[mutley]

It's NA1 for me (1992)

Cheers
Jim

[britlude]

It's NA1 for me (1992)

Cheers
Jim

a damn fine year!!!! :)

[exiges1]

Mine's a 1992 NA1.

[Dragonlady]

a damn fine year!!!! :)

Is that a good vintage?

Can you pm me with a price for NA2 please Jonathon.

Cheers Ian

[britlude]

i have enough aluminium at the moment for another 6 rain guard trip tray thingies!

ian... PM sent!

1. exiges1....... na1
2. paulc..........
3. mutley........ na1
4. dragonlady.. na2
5.
6.

[Problem Child]

ok... i'll have to check how many i have material for..... i'll need to know what flavour of NSX you have, NA1, or NA2 with the extra plumbing where the rain guard goes....1. exiges12. paulc3.mutleyWhilst I admire your work and ingenuity, my NA2 doesnt know what rain is!!!!

[britlude]

Whilst I admire your work and ingenuity, my NA2 doesnt know what rain is!!!!

but it knows a hose pipe ;)



i have enough aluminium at the moment for another 6 rain guard drip tray thingies!

ian... PM sent!

1. exiges1....... na1
2. paulc..........
3. mutley........ na1
4. dragonlady.. na2
5.
6.

[Sudesh]

but it knows a hose pipe ;)


lol that really made me laugh, good answer Jonathan, people sometimes forget that it's water that comes out of the hose lol.

[Senninha]

Whilst I admire your work and ingenuity, my NA2 doesnt know what rain is!!!!

or speed, or throttle application, or national speed signs, or spirited driving, or Vtec zone, the reason it has an 8k red line oh the list goes on .....

[britlude]

one space left for this little list.. after that i'll have to get some more metal if enough interest!!!

1. exiges1....... na1
2. paulc..........
3. mutley........ na1
4. dragonlady.. na2
5. thelimpingwhippet.... na1
6.

[ianhb]

Can I have the last one please?
Ianhb na1

[britlude]

1. exiges1....... na1
2. paulc..........
3. mutley........ na1
4. dragonlady.. na2
5. thelimpingwhippet.... na1
6. Ianhb........na1

I shall get onto these after the weekend and pm you all in due course.....

[Dragonlady]

Thanks John........oops did I say that out loud, I meant Jon;) What was I thinking.

Cheers Ian

[britlude]

the latest 6 should have a PM!

[mutley]

Received and replied (paypal sorted now too)

Cheers
Jim

[mutley]

Just collected from our mail office, and I have to say that it is a very well engineered piece...................and that was just the packaging, the part inside is also excellent.

Cheers

Jim

[Mistercorn]

I agree on the packaging, I haven't fitted mine yet, but I'll post up some photos when I do.

MC

[britlude]

everyone that wanted one should now have them, according to royal mail tracking!!!! :)

[paulc]

everyone that wanted one should now have them, according to royal mail tracking!!!! :)

Yep all save and sound, love the quality, awesome, many thanks.

Paul

[Regis_NSX_CRX_TSX]

PM'd you Jonathan ! ;)