NSX Resurrection attempt [Archive]

Jivaldinho

04-09-2014, 12:52 PM

Hi everyone,

So I purchased the ex Knights Racer NSX, a '99 3.0 Auto. After purchasing the car I did more research and found some forum posts on here and on NSX prime about my new pride and joy that made me wish I had waited or done the research before hand. Alas, while contemplating what to do with the car when i was stopped by a couple who wanted to take pictures of the car and this wasn't the only time this happened. I took the car into Manchester City Center, parked up and watched as many people walked by, looked into the car, took pictures and generally seemed quite impressed (i took some pictures of people taking pictures of the car because i couldn't believe it myself). This made me realise I shouldn't give up on this car.
I decided, regardless of how long it will take.. that i will try to get this car back to its former glory. Here is a list of problems I have found with the car so far.

1. The speedometer and odometer doesn't work and the car is in limp mode - hopefully the fix is the VSS

2. TCS light doesn't go off - having checked the rear lights, seems like the previous owner has done a cowboy job running cables from one break light to another, very dodgy.

3. EPS light flashes - 3 long flashes followed by 3 short flashes then repeat of cycle. sometimes the power steering works, others it doesn't.

4. CEL light is on - the car has been decat (test pipes?) and the O2 sensors have been disconnected.

5. Dash lights don't come on when switching the main headlights on - this is a weird one. When I switch the car on, I can see the warning, indicator lights, door lights, auto gearbox light (D, N, R, 1, 2, 3, 4) as well as the rest of the dash lights. When driving all the lights on the dashboard seem to be ok. as soon as I put the head lights on, the gearbox lights go off, and there is no dash light. can not see lights on oil pressure, Water temperature, Fuel level etc.. the only lights that come on are the indicators / turn signal, the handbrake light, CEL light, TCS light and the flashing EPS light. as soon as i switch the headlights off i can see the missing lights again. might have to put a video up to make it more understandable. what i have noticed is that the digital clock is bright before switching the head lights on. when i switch the headlights on the digital clock fades. as i said, very peculiar. FIXED

6. The service connector port doesn't work, I put the paper clip in as per the instructions on the forums but nothing.

7. Water leak in the boot, I can see on the off side the place where the water is leaking from but on the near side I cant, I suspect it is something to do with the aerial but will need further investigation. I have removed the carpets till this is fixed.

8. The Tail lights are not aligned properly and I don't think they have been fitted properly either, There doesn't seem to be any of the gaskets fitted, I can only see some sort of sealant type material.

9. The weather strip for the trunk is cracked and not fitting properly. FIXED (replaced weather strip)

10. The center light garnish needs replacing.

11. The O/S Headlight is broken, needs replacing, I have made a temporary fix that means the headlight will pop up and down. FIXED (replaced whole light module including cover)

12. The body work needs tidying up i.e. needs better alignment / fitment including aligning the doors

13. The Interior will be getting a complete refresh, I will be going for a custom interior with Alacantara and a colour scheme to match the colour of the car. I know it isn't to everyone's tastes but I think it takes the great shape and colour of the outside and carries it inside the vehicle (i may just be spouting crap now)

14. The battery doesn't seem to be sitting as it should be. From pictures of other NSX's the battery is supposed to be sitting in a try but this is missing. FIXED (Replaced complete battery Assy)

15. There seems to be a leak in the main Cabin, this may be to do with the door alignment

16. SRS system seems to have been disabled so will need to get Original steering wheel with Airbag and also the passenger airbag.

16. Finally after all that get an extensive service done.

I have the car with Swansway Honda and should have it back this evening. I have also ordered some parts via http://jp-carparts.com/

33512-SL0-A01 SOCKET COMP.,R. 1 US$49.28 in stock
33562-SL0-A01 SOCKET COMP.,L. 1 US$49.28 in stock
33503-SL0-A01 GASKET ,R. BASE (1) 1 US$11.78 in stock
33505-SL0-A01 GASKET ,R. BASE (2) 1 US$20.26 in stock
33555-SL0-A01 GASKET ,L. BASE (2) 1 US$20.26 in stock
33553-SL0-A01 GASKET ,L. BASE (1) 1 US$11.78 in stock
74865-SL0-003 WEATHERSTRIP , TRUNK LID 1 US$77.59 in stock
75521-SL0-A01 BEZEL 1 US$20.26 in stock
33506-SL0-A01 CUSHION, WIRE HARNESS 1 US$4.89 in stock
33554-SL0-A01 BEZEL,L. 1 US$20.26 in stock
33504-SL0-A01 BEZEL,R 1 US$20.26 in stock

Shipping cost US$50.00
Paypal feeUS$14.24
total US$370.14

I did compare the prices to Lings Honda price list and I am saving a lot, even taking into account the expected import / vat costs.

The Journey has started, hopefully I can save time and money with the help of people on the forums.

I have also Started a Facebook and twitter page called NSX in the City. It sounds a bit cheesy i know, but I want to document the journeys and experiences with the NSX and remind people of this great and amazing supercar!

Facebook - NSX in the City (https://www.facebook.com/pages/NSX-in-the-City/1445782945709131)

Twitter - @NSXintheCity (https://twitter.com/NSXintheCity)

Silver Surfer

04-09-2014, 04:19 PM

Good luck Jivaldinho,

That's a lot of work...the most worrying is the electrics.
Do you have the NSX works service manual as I think you will need it.
We are all keen to help....it may be worth paying Kaz a visit at some point?!...depending how far you want to go.

SS

NSXGB

04-09-2014, 06:57 PM

Good luck!
A lot of those issues can be fixed easily enough and without too much money.
One I can fix for you straight away is the digital clock....it should fade when you turn the lights on, so it sounds fine!
I would also guess that if the O2 sensors have just been disconnected it would trigger the CEL and result in the car going into limp mode.
Check out Kaz's blog, lots of info. EPS controller may need to have a little of his TLC.

What colour connector are you shorting to read the error codes?

Jivaldinho

04-09-2014, 09:11 PM

Thanks Guys,

Silver Surfer - I would love to take it to KAZ but he is booked till Feb 2015. My intention is to get the car working as much as possible then book in with Kaz to finish the car.

NSXGB - I am shorting the blue connector with 2 entry points in it located below the glove compartment.

I got the NSX back from Swansway Honda in Manchester today.

The car feels night and day compared to when i left it there, here is a list of what they changed.

Replaced NSR Driveshaft boots

Replaced OSF Track Rod end (the original was bent)

Installed Battery tray and clamp unit.

Rerouted and secured handbrake cables correctly

Fitted new OSR subframe bolt (missing originally)

OSR brake line was hanging loose and rubbing with tyre, routed it the same way as NSF brake line

Now the car feels solid and as a bonus the dashboard light issue has disappeared i.e. when i switch the headlights on the dash lights now come on and stay on. I can clear no. 5 off my list. Happy days!!!

I replaced replaced the VSS but that didn't make any difference to the car coming out of limp mode so the next order of things is to get some Catalytic converters and connect the O2 sensors as NSXGB has suggested.

The parts from Japan will be arriving in 3 weeks or so which gives me time to source some tail lights. I have managed to source a headlight unit as well so hopefully all that is left for the exterior is the touch up of the body work and alignment.

From what i can tell and from the suggestion of my mechanic friend there may be an issue with the earthing / grounding on this car. This would need to be checked with a specialist to confirm.

britlude

04-09-2014, 10:21 PM

for number 15.... check behind the upper door rubber seal at each end , is it wet behind between the rubber and body, or are the fabric/felt door aperture edgings damp/wet?

i found on mine that the upper door mouldings (the long trims over the top of the door and down the screen pillars) had been off at some point and the seal had broken up. this led to water finding it's way from the roof behind my shiny new expensive door seals and into the cabin, causing my screen misting up on a regular basis!

it's an easy fix... remove the door mouldings (in the manual, available online, but hardcopy is well worth it) get some black gutter sealant from B&Q, run a bead along the upper edge of the (now hard) foam seal and refit. use the gutter seal as it never sets and stays pliable. silicone would work but you'd never get the trim off again!

soddy

09-09-2014, 08:12 PM

i wish you good luck with it mate. i like the car, cool colour, something different. hopefully all of the gremlins get sorted out easily and you can get it back to your desired look and driving as it should.

Jivaldinho

09-09-2014, 09:11 PM

The headlight has arrived and looks in good condition. The car is going to Dr Japs tomorrow for a diagnostic check before I take it to VTEC Direct near Oulton Park. I was supposed to take it easy and do the fix over the next 12 months but the car is so addictive and I just want to get it right so I can enjoy it to its fullest right now.

Jivaldinho

09-09-2014, 09:12 PM

Jivaldinho

12-09-2014, 02:42 PM

After having read the threads by user KR_NSX on nsx prime (who had previously owned this car) I realised i had to get the car looked at in terms of geometry and alignment. We tried to fit the new headlight and it just wouldn't align with the bonnet. The old headlight unit was working on one hinge and the headlight cover wasn't straight and seemed like it had bowed at the top (would add pictures but it doesn't seem to work) so it was able to work with the existing setup but the new light wouldn't take.

When the body shop took the front apart they found the O/S front had been involved in an accident and had been badly repaired (I had an idea of this from the NSX priome threads but thought i would let them tell me) so we decided to jig/dozer the chassis back to the correct settings and align all the panels correctly as well as get the headlight fitting properly. I get the car back tomorrow evening so fingers crossed all will be ok.
The car is booked in for a 4 wheel alignment, then carbon wrap the bonnet, trunk, wing and headlight covers to freshen up the carbon effect. Then off to the either Vtech Direct or Camco automotive to diagnose the electrical issues with the car. I have an engine Wire harness available on standby (£600 :eek: ) in case the cabling has been messed around with too much.

Jivaldinho

18-09-2014, 12:35 PM

Update:

The Car is currently with Camco automotive who are investigating what seems to be an electrical issue.

What they have found is there is continuity between the Vehicle speed sensor, ECU and through to the Instrument Cluster... BUT there is supposed to be a 5v going through which they can't find. They can't see what generates the 5v feed either.

I am hoping someone on here knows what generates the 5v feed from the VSS through to ecu/ instrument cluster and other components. The Honda NSX Electrical Manual doesn't show it either apparently so i am praying someone on here knows what does generate the missing 5v feed from the VSS.

I hope i have explained this properly and apologies if i am not making sense.

Kaz-kzukNA1

23-09-2014, 10:05 AM

Thought about replying back to your email but in case your NSX is still at the shop, I wanted to show some respects to the people diagnosing the issue for you so decided to reply through here than behind the scene.

VSS is a very simple circuit. Also, being as a Japanese production car, the spec of VSS frequency is specified by JIS so regardless of the car maufactures, wheel diameter, etc, it will follow that spec.

VSS on our NSX is just three wires.
12V power supply, GND and the VSS output. It will be 0 -> 5V square wave form.
It's driven by the thin metal ring on the DF body so you need to lift up the rear of the car and rotate the wheel with your hand.
As your NSX is with the electronics engineers, it's quite easy to test.

Not sure exactly what kind of issues you are having but did you get multiple warning lights for the VSS?
VSS is shared with many devices such as ECU, EPS, AT controller, Cruise control, etc so if you have VSS failure, you will not only have speedo issue but also CEL and other warning lights will be triggered depending on the spec of your NSX. Best to read the error code first.

Kaz

Jivaldinho

24-09-2014, 11:00 PM

Thanks Kaz, really appreciate your input and anything that can help these guys to fix the issue, the quicker I can get the car back on the road.

Camco Automotive couldn't do any more with the car so I took it to Vtec Direct in Cheshire.

The VSS has been replaced already a few weeks ago, the problem is there is no feed to the service connector so the paper clip short process to get the engine codes is currently unavailable. I probably am going about this the wrong way and should get them to look at the service connector and get that working first so that we can then check the engine error codes.

As for warning lights the TCS light and CEL lights are on. The EPS light can be off till I hit the first speed bumps or it is on from when the car is started. Some times the Electronic Power Steering works, other times it doesn't seem to work at all.

Vtec Direct seem to think something is blocking the 5v feed around the car, this may be due to bad earthing or some piece of equipment has been tapped into the loom causing a problem. I will let them know what has been suggested and see what they can come up with.

On another note I Have managed to acquire a centre console with the ashtray and cigarette lighter for £200 although it does need some refurbishing. Is that a good price?

Kaz-kzukNA1

25-09-2014, 11:57 AM

I believe your NSX is JDM so if you can post the first 3digits of the VIN (the numbers *** as shown later) after the code NA1-***, I can understand some of the spec (DBW, non-DBW, EPS controller spec, etc) of your NSX.
Please do not publish full VIN on here for security reason.

I know it's AT and although you mentioned that it's 99 year model, it's probably registered in 1999 in UK but the build spec could be different.
For example, I own JDM NA1-120 type. This means that it's 1994 model.
Some example of the first 3 digits after the code NA1-***.

NA1-100: Original model. Aug/90 but known as 91 model, E-NA1 spec
NA1-110: 92, 93 models inc. Type-R, E-NA1 spec
NA1-120: 94 model, E-NA1 spec
NA1-130: 95, 96 models, introduction of DBW, E-NA1 spec
NA1-140: 97, 98 models, E-NA1 spec
NA1-150: 99, 00 models, GH-NA1 spec

EPS error code #33 is for the VSS so presuming that your new sensor that you replaced was tested and found to be OK, something is disturbing the VSS signal line.
If your speedo is converted from KPH to MPH, then you will find small converter box somewhere on the car or someone may have modified the speedo circuit board directly.
It is possible that this converter circuit is broken/not working and thus pulling down the entire VSS signal across the car.

CEL and TCS warning lights could be related to the same issue such as the O2 sensor.
I would first fix the CEL issue and then come back to the TCS. As you are not getting the ABS warning light, the TCS one is not related to the wheel speed sensor signal. The raw signal of w/speed sensor is first monitored by the ABS controller and then the signal is filtered and level converted inside ABS before transferred to the TCS controller so any w/speed related failure will first trigger the ABS warning light and then almost at the same time or within a few seconds, the TCS one will be triggered as well.

The SCS service connector (blue 2pin connector at passenger footwell area) is a simple circuit and just there to assist the person diagnosing the error code stored on each controllers without removing the interior panels.
One of the terminal at this connector is permanentaly connected to the GND and the other one combines all of the SCS pin at each controllers into a single wire.

So, if your SCS service connector is not working for some reason, you just do it the hard way by getting to the controller box, GND the SCS pin at the controller without disconnecting any connectors and then turn the IG key On.

Depending on the cause of your SCS service connector issue (and the position of the wiring damge/issue on SCS circuit if it is related to the wiring), connecting the SCS pin at one controller to the GND may allow you to read all error codes on other controllers as well.
Otherwise, you need to do the same process on each controllers.

On RHD model like JDM and UK spec, ECU is behind the driver seat and the TCS controller is behind the passenger side.
Find the pinout of SCS terminal at each controller through the Workshop manual for your year model and just insert the test probe from behind the terminal pin at the connector without disconnecting it.
Then GND the other end and turn the IG key On.
If you see the blinking warning light, you have successfully created the SCS circuit.

If your NSX is at VTEC direct, then Andy owns/owned NSX and several owners are carrying out their services there so they knows the car.

Good luck.

Kaz

Nick Graves

25-09-2014, 12:44 PM

Jivaldinho

25-09-2014, 08:44 PM

Jivaldinho

25-09-2014, 09:03 PM

You ARE a sucker for aggro - best of luck getting it sorted!

Sikaflex 221 is your friend for sorting those body leaks - and good seals round the rear lights.

IIRC, there is a box (one of several!) behind the glove box, which drops the voltage to 5v for the bus system. There is a spare 5v port on it which you might need to tap. At least until you can find which bits are missing/incorrectly wired.

The good thing is, being hand-built, there is quite a bit of adjustment in the front panel alignment. The bad thing is, it takes time & patience to get it looking square.

Thanks Nick,

Already looking for Sikaflex 221, I have had the carpet washed professionally and don't want to get it wet again so will need to clear the leaks up ASAP.

Getting the alignment right has been a nightmare but it is getting there. The problem being the after market bonnet and bumper mean the after market headlamp covers don't seem to have the same fit as you may find on a standard NSX. I am sure there is more room for adjustment to getting the car looking square and tight but it will take some more effort.

Also I have found out that this car has the NSX VIS Racing GT Widebody Kit fitted to it with some slight modifications i.e. filling in the seams for the rear bumper so the rear quarters and bumper all look like one piece.

There is a lot of work to be done but I feel like it is getting there. The aggro might be apparent now but when it is finished I have no doubt it will be worth it... and yet it is so frustrating no being at that point now so i know what you are saying :(

Nick Graves

02-10-2014, 02:40 PM

My RH Headlamp fouls the bonnet lid very slightly - I think that's entirely as it left the factory.

I hate it when aftermarket stuff has a poor fit, but since original is imperfect one cannot get too hung up about it, TBF.

Jivaldinho

11-10-2014, 02:11 PM

Update...

The car has been with Vtec Direct for a few weeks now. Although i would love to have it back I know being patient is the best way forward with this project.

Seems like part of the loom is missing. Behind the drivers seat near to where the ECU is situated are some plugs / looms joined together. 2 blue connectors and 2 grey connectors. The larger 16 pin grey connector should have a male end on it but on my car this is missing.

https://plus.google.com/110837246966248962467/posts/DXGU2wfgPEr

The link above has the photos of the wiring. For some reason I cannot post pictures here.

Can anyone tell me what this port / loom / connector is and where it goes?

Jivaldinho

21-10-2014, 12:48 AM

Things just got a little weird

According to the VIN the engine number should be C30A4- 8000006

The actual Engine number is C30A4- 4000104

Also the loom from the engine has an extra block connector that the interior loom hasn't got a connection for as per the previous post.

So from my research and limited knowledge and the missing loom I think it is obvious this car has had an engine swap. They have gone from a 99 NSX engine to an older model. I went to a breaker who had 4 NSX's in various states. 2 were Autos and 2 were Manuals.

What I Noticed was that there was 1 Auto NSX without the F-Matic which had the same style of connector from the engine with the 2 grey male blocks connecting to the interior loom.

The 2nd Auto NSX with the F-Matic had the same interior loom connections as my car ie only the smaller grey female block.

This suggests that I may have an older engine in my car (pre 95/96)

I can get hold of an interior loom to match the incoming engine loom as well as an ECU but will this mean i lose the F-Matic option on my car or is there a way of by passing the need for the missing piece of loom? we have done exactly that to get the speedometer working which makes me think the the interior loom block changed over the years and the remaining wires can be patched to the wires coming in from the engine bay and get the car working. The only thing I cant work out is what would be missing.

I don't know if it is clear from the pictures but we took part of the wire from the small block on the interior loom(orange wire) and connected to a wire on the other side of the missing block which is coming from the engine loom and the speedometer now works, the TCS light and the EPS light go off now and don't come back on, although the car is still in limp mode ie it wont go above 4000 rpm.

As of this moment we cannot go any further on my car so i am in desperate need of some help.

Obviously this is getting more and more confusing the more we uncover but I am desperate to get this car running right.

Kaz-kzukNA1

21-10-2014, 12:13 PM

Hi, Jivaldinho.
As I don't know whether your NSX is still at Vtecdirect or not, I'm going to reply through here instead of replying back to your email to show some respect to the people working on your car.
I don't like giving advice behind the scene while someone else is working on your NSX.

By the way, you may want to consider posting technical questions in the 'Technical' forum and not in your 'Build' thread to keep it tidy.
Take a look at Jonathan's (britlude) build thread.

He posts the detail in different forum and paste the link into his 'Build' thread to keep it tidy.
Otherwise, the build thread will become more like Q&A style or tends to go off topic and not expressing your own NSX build.

I also don't check 'Build' thread so often that any questions in here may not be answered by me for a long time......

Back to the topic.

Initially, by looking at the photo of your rear bumper and without head light washer, I thought your NSX is JDM.
However, after you provided me with the VIN info above, your NSX is actually European spec 1999model, Coupe, 4AT, EPS with 4 x O2 sensors, classic ABS, non-LEV, without the OBD2.
Based on RHD, it is KE spec and thus, yours is UK model.

It's not surprising to see just one grey connector on the chassis/engine loom as yours is originally a DBW model.
However, your replacement enginge with serial code C30A4-4xxx is from the 1994 model.
It's a non-DBW and thus, you will see extra grey connector on the engine loom.

On the non-DBW model, TCS is done through the big extra stepping motor attached to the side of the TH body and it is driven by the TCS controller itself.

On the DBW model, as it stands, it is 'Drive By Wire' so the TH body itself is the stepping motor and thus, TCS is still calculated within the TCS controller but driven by the ECU and no extra wires required.
DBW also takes care of the cruise control, idle rpm control, rev limit, etc so you won't see the cruise control actuator under the bonnet, neither the EACV nor the fast idle air valve on the engine.
Hence, just one grey connector on the chassis/engine loom although it's not just TCS related wires involved on this extra connector.

For example, the VSS signal (Vehicle Speed Sensor) on the non-DBW engine loom is going through that extra grey connector and thus, you had to patch that orange wire to make it work on your DBW chassis loom.
This also explains why your SCS blue terminal is not working to show the erorr code.
Simply because you are missing the connection that is included in that extra connector.

Also, without the connection to the grey connector, you may have problem getting the MAP (Pb) sensor signal as the Vcc sensor power supply (5.0V) is through this connector on the non-DBW engine loom.
This will obviously cause fuel map look-up issue as NSX is based on rpm/Pb map control and without this, it will go into fail safe mode and fuel cut at 4,000rpm. Same thing if you don't have DBW TH body on DBW ECU. It will control the engine based on the TH pedal angle to predict the target TH position.

So, the first step is to find out what has been done to run your replacement non-DBW engine/TH body on a DBW chassis loom.
Although INJ was changed from 97 NA2 models, the one on NA1 stayed the same so that's fine.
Not sure which ECU model you are using so that's another key factor.

Please check the type of TH body (DBW, non-DBW), presence of TH cable or not, the ECU parts no. written on the label.
It will start as 37820-.
For 99 UK AT model, it is 37820-PR7-G16.
For 94, it is -G14.

If still using G16, you are very likely to be running DBW TH body otherwise it will go fail safe mode.
Not sure how the secondary O2 sensors are connected to the ECU as there were only two O2 sensors on the engine loom of 94 model.

Just post the photo of engine bay especially the area around the TH body from several different angle.

Kaz

Jivaldinho

21-10-2014, 10:28 PM

Hi Kaz,

thanks for the reply and any further questions I will post in the technical forum.

The car is still with Vtec Direct and I have discussed with them about discussing my car on the forums and they are happy for me to find out as much as I can to help get this car back on the road in a fully working condition. This car has become a special case in so much that it isn't a straight forward electrical issue as we first thought, so any technical knowledge is much appreciated.

The Throttle body is the DBW type and the ECU number is as it should be for this car; 37820-PR7-G16.

I will get photos tomorrow hopefully and post them up here.

Kaz-kzukNA1

22-10-2014, 05:11 PM

So, basically, you are running 99 NA1-DBW-4 O2 sensor-AT spec ECU + 94 AT engine (replaced TH body with DBW version) + non-DBW engine loom.

If I remember correctly, the cable from the DBW TH body stepping motor is routed in front of the thermostat cover and then disappears at the firewall just below the Eng GND point (not 100% sure as I don't have access to DBW model at the moment but I think this is correct) so the connection between the DBW TH body and ECU should be fine.

As mentioned in my last post, you must check the Vcc power supply to the MAP (Pb) sensor.
It is inside the Control box just above the RR wheel speed sensor orange connector. It's the black cubic box located at RL corner of the engine bay.
There used to be IG timing adjuster sharing the same Vcc line with MAP sensor inside there but with DBW model, it's done inside the ECU so you should see only 1 x round 3pin connector and 1 x 6pin?? (I think it is 6pin but not sure) square connector at the Control box. If you have another 3pin rectangular connector at the Control box, then you are using the non-DBW spec Control box......

As you don't have GND connection at your SCS blue 2pin connector, you need to short the SCS terminal at each controller manually in order to read the error code.

To start with, try reading the error code at the ECU.

With the IG key in Off position, find the single Blue wire (no secondary colour code on the wire) within the 12pin connector at the ECU.
I think only 8 terminals out of 12 are in use.
Without disconnecting any of the connector, insert test probe at the back of this blue wire termianl and GND the other end to the nearby GND.

Remember, you must do this on the blue wire. Please double check the SCS terminal position using the wiring diagram otherwise you could damge the ECU or other devices.

Now turn the IG switch to On position. The CEL should show the error code now.

Ideally, you should check all the input to the ECU comparing the wiring diagram but reading the error code would be a good starting point to understand what's missing.

Again, I don't know how the secondary O2 sensors are connected to your ECU when using 94 spec engine loom as there were only two O2 sensors on UK spec NSX at that time.
Without the connection, it will trigger the CEL but it won't prevent you from going above 4,000rpm.

Kaz

Jivaldinho

24-10-2014, 11:07 AM

Thanks for the reply again Kaz,

You are truly a master of the NSX. I will get the ecu error codes checked out, hopefully this weekend if not then it will be next weekend. The pictures should be coming soon as well. I really appreciate your help in this. I did enter NSX ownership knowing this particular car needed some work but I never realised the size of the task. I used to walk past a Black NSX in Manchester on the way to school as a youngster and was always mesmersed by the car and I still am, this experience hasn't dampened my enthusiasm for this amazing machine.

Sol

Jivaldinho

04-12-2014, 08:06 PM

Quick update,

As we are awaiting for parts from Japan, I decided to clean the car up a little. I went and got the carbon panels wrapped in 3M Carbon Fibre wrap. The original weave had faded so a fresh carbon effect was required. The car doesn't look as jaded any more at least. Now how to remove those horrible decals without damaging the paint??!!

I have also ordered an orange velvet wrap to cover the interior plastic trim to match the exterior paint. lets see how that turns out. For now here are some pics.

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Jivaldinho

07-12-2014, 05:04 AM

Not an update for anything new on the car but I have uploaded my first video to youtube. It is a simple start up video for now but hopefully soon I will be uploading more videos. I am currently working on a Reaction video which will have me driving through city centres and capturing reactions of the public.

You can find the video here on my Youtube Channel "NSX in the City (http://youtu.be/gkx4OCYCsJ8)"

Pride

07-12-2014, 09:09 AM

I will be uploading more videos. I am currently working on a Reaction video which will have me driving through city centres and capturing reactions of the public.

You can find the video here on my Youtube Channel "NSX in the City (http://youtu.be/gkx4OCYCsJ8)"

Hi Jivaldinho, you've gotta post these on the "what's my favourite video thread", it will be good to watch some jaw dropping public reactions:)

Cheers mate.

Senninha

08-12-2014, 05:45 PM

Hagasan

08-12-2014, 09:27 PM

Unless you requested the opposing weave on the headlamp cover, I'd be asking you wrap guys to redo the cover to match the direction of the bonnet. They appear to have aligned the spoiler and bootlid so Im guessing this is an oversight by them ... definately tidies the car up ... keep it going!

C'mon Paul, I thought you of all people would that know herringbone is all the rage in the carbon wrap world lol

Seriously though I'd agree with you unless the other light matches.. I can't really tell viewing on my phone

Jivaldinho

09-12-2014, 12:38 PM

In my excitement I missed that. I will get it changed soon after the headlight has been properly adjusted and aligned.

Got my orange velvet wrap today. This is normally for exterior use but I though I would experiment on the interior plastics such as the centre console, visor cowl and even the centre storage. This is my first attempt so lets see how it goes!!!!

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Jivaldinho

11-12-2014, 02:58 AM

Finished the wrap. The centre console was a pain to work and took an absolute age to do. and I think the ash tray cover will need to be shaved for both the double din unit and to have a smoother motion when opening and closing. I think it's okay for a first attempt considering the centre console was in 2 pieces when I first received it.

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Nick Graves

11-12-2014, 04:48 PM

Come out neat enough, really.

Not entirely convinced by the colour though, personally. Just reminds me of

12381

NSXGB

11-12-2014, 05:02 PM

Where did you buy the material from, was it KPMF.com?
Did you have to apply heat to form the curves?

Jivaldinho

11-12-2014, 06:27 PM

I'm hoping after fixing to the car, the gear and handbrake, with the addition of the double din and the climate control units splitting up the orange colour it would be more aesthetically pleasing. A quick search of the net didn't yield many interior mods like this (colour co-coordinating centre console and viser with exterior) except for maybe the middle part of the seats and door panels which will all be getting the orange treatment soon. I will most likely get the steering wheel done in a mixture of orange and black leather too.

NSXGB,

I got the wrap from http://www.mdpsupplies.co.uk/vehiclewrappingvelvet.asp (http://www.mdpsupplies.co.uk/vehiclewrappingvelvet.asp) I only ordered 1m x 1.5m at around £50 delivered but it was far cheaper than what I was quoted from various car wrap outlets. I have a fatmax heatgun with variable temp that I used to help form the curves.

britlude

11-12-2014, 06:35 PM

+1 for mdpsupplies, best prices i've found for my sticky backed stuff!

Jivaldinho

25-12-2014, 04:38 PM

More Parts ordered but the wait for these parts is so frustrating.

Started the test fitting of the centre console. It has been wrapped for about 2 weeks now but it has been in a temperature controlled environment. I will see how it goes the over the next month in the car with hopefully some cold weather as well as heat from the heater to go with general wear and tear to see how it reacts. Once this is done I will remove the console, fill it, sand paper it down and paint before wrapping for the final fit. I will be using either an android double din or a Pioneer / Kenwood unit to fill the gap.

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Jivaldinho

06-02-2015, 11:55 PM

My NSX is a bit low.......

My car is lowered on Tein Super Street Coilovers and with the car already being so low i was bound to hit something.... and i did. I went over what looked like a pavement which turned out not to be and the car landed on what turned out to be the bottom of a wall which hadn't been fully knocked down.... it was dark! The O/S skirt fell off and snapped off at the point it was attached to the front wing... which was also was badly damaged.

Getting the car back to a friends body shop it turns out the whole car other than the doors and roof are either carbon fibre or fibreglass (which got me thinking about NSX-R style weight saving potential...) Anyway we decided to go for a full respray and repair the damaged parts. This meant that the damaged front bumper, flaking paint near the spoiler, cracked rear bumper and other bumps and scrapes could also be rectified. This was also a chance to rectify the previous cowboy job on the paint work and getting the weather seals properly fitted. Now I was told the car will be stripped and done properly but I didn't realise how far he would go... (this guy normally deals with Ferraris, Lambos and had an R8 in for a full respray at the same time... I will try and post pictures of his G wagon restoration project, its going to be amazing)

He Removed the pillars, all the weather seals, the bonnet, trunk, rear window hatch, side skirts, front bumper and rear lights (which are also going to be refurbished to get that shine back to them)... Gives me confidence that this will be a proper job.

Can't wait to get the car back as the engine loom has arrived from Japan so VTEC Direct will have my car for a few weeks to get the engine running properly... along side another very special orange car... an orange Type S... hehe

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Jivaldinho

25-02-2015, 11:25 PM

Some progress on the paint... Looks amazing in the flesh and am so glad I was forced to get his done!!!!

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paulc

26-02-2015, 11:09 AM

Looking very nice. Seriously considered buying this car myself about 4 years ago.

Jivaldinho

04-03-2015, 10:03 PM

Looking very nice. Seriously considered buying this car myself about 4 years ago.

I am glad you didn't paulc hehe... btw, out of curiosity... what stopped you buying the car?

Nearly finished with the body work... Paint is looking good and had the alloys sprayed gloss black with body coloured callipers.

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paulc

05-03-2015, 06:58 PM

Found a red manual one nearer to me. Yours is starting to look very nice, love the paint work.

Jivaldinho

08-03-2015, 12:55 AM

The paint work is done... more pictures to follow

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Jivaldinho

15-03-2015, 01:08 AM

Went to Vtec Direct today to get the door weather seals fitted. So glad I went as Honda Uk's NSX Type S was just sitting there post service and it is in the same colour as My NSX... Had to take some photos!!!

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NZNick

15-03-2015, 07:27 AM

That Type S looks a bit tired and has the wrong (battered) wheels.....

L696ULO

15-03-2015, 07:55 AM

Not to mention the wiper arms

Hagasan

15-03-2015, 08:18 AM

HUK own a Type S with a roll-call and rusty exhaust as well? Are you sure you heard them right? Seems doubtful. Why would it be serviced there?

Jivaldinho

15-03-2015, 09:49 AM

HUK own a Type S with a roll-call and rusty exhaust as well? Are you sure you heard them right? Seems doubtful. Why would it be serviced there?

This is that exact same one!!! It is only ever used on a track and for development and testing apparently.

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Silver Surfer

15-03-2015, 10:39 AM

That is a sorry sight...!
would they want to sell it to me?

SS

Jivaldinho

15-03-2015, 10:45 AM

That is a sorry sight...!
would they want to sell it to me?

SS

I have already asked... they will crush it once they finish with it apparently... Heartbroken :(

mjames75

15-03-2015, 02:43 PM

Confused.
I think someone is pulling your leg...

Jivaldinho

15-03-2015, 03:18 PM

Confused.
I think someone is pulling your leg...

They could be but this is an NSX Type S which isn't a lie and Vtec Direct wont be crushing it, Honda will. Also as Hagasan has pointed out, HUK own an NSX Type S with a roll cage and rusty exhaust which as you can see, this also has... As far as I know once the car is serviced it will be off to MIRA for testing. Check out Vtec Directs and Andy's Facebook feed for more info...

https://www.facebook.com/pages/VTEC-Direct/218967274793085

https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100006322835665

mjames75

15-03-2015, 03:33 PM

This is that exact same one!!! It is only ever used on a track and for development and testing apparently.

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Think you have read it wrong, hes not telling you honda have a type s...its a question

Jivaldinho

15-03-2015, 03:48 PM

Think you have read it wrong, hes not telling you honda have a type s...its a question

My mistake, Just got so excited at seeing an NSX type S... a bit more info. This car has never been uk registered, it has never been on any UK roads. It is only ever used for testing and development hence why it in such a state and It has only done 15000 miles or so. At the end of the day I am just happy to have seen and been in an NSX Type S regardless of its story :D

Silver Surfer

15-03-2015, 04:22 PM

I have a spare set of NSX seats... Do you think they will mind if I swap out the Type S seats?

SS

NZNick

15-03-2015, 06:50 PM

What happened to the lovely titanium gear knob? - without that the gear-change will be compromised....
The hand brake looks wrong too.
Seat side leather needs some tlc.

Pride

15-03-2015, 08:25 PM

If you ask me its a total wreck and an embarrassment and the guys at MIRA will be laughing their socks off.:D
jivaldinho, have your ever thought that VTec are just stringing you along with a big **** and bull story line.:rolleyes:
Think about it, what RND can they possibly be doing using an old Ford Orion gear knob and a handbrake that pulls up to the roof lining and that's just what we can see, no wonder it's never been road registered.
There is simply no way this car is owned by HUK, and who ever does own it should hang their head in shame.:(
Pride (which they don't have)

nobby

16-03-2015, 12:30 AM

It's a very depressing state of affairs to have a type s in such a state regardless of who owns it.
the seats just wanna make me cry :(

Jivaldinho

01-05-2015, 07:56 PM

Ooops, I just went and got the NSX-R steering wheel and NSX-R Air Shroud. I have the boss and the horn buttons already plus I have the opportunity to buy the carpets too.... now If only I could get hold of the seats!!!!

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Also I have decided to have a play with adding a Nexus 7 to my setup but without adding the Navpod. Purchased the Nexus 7 dock and with a bit of modification will have it in place of the clock!

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markc

03-05-2015, 09:27 PM

What happened to the lovely titanium gear knob? - without that the gear-change will be compromised....
The hand brake looks wrong too.
Seat side leather needs some tlc.

It isn't titanium Nick. Just unscrew yours and feel the weight, it weighs a ton! Possibly made from the same "unobtanium" as the ignition key :)

If you ask me its a total wreck and an embarrassment and the guys at MIRA will be laughing their socks off.:D
jivaldinho, have your ever thought that VTec are just stringing you along with a big **** and bull story line.:rolleyes:
Think about it, what RND can they possibly be doing using an old Ford Orion gear knob and a handbrake that pulls up to the roof lining and that's just what we can see, no wonder it's never been road registered.
There is simply no way this car is owned by HUK, and who ever does own it should hang their head in shame.:(
Pride (which they don't have)

I wondered where that car went. There were pics of it in a UK workshop years ago but it went missing... until now.

I wouldn't completely dismiss the HUK link although I can't think why they wouldn't work on it in their own workshops? It could be the car that featured in the 1997/1998 Honda brochure wearing UK reg L421 WMR, along with another black Type S (P888 RAM). The pics were taken at the Nurburgring so those cars were definitely in Europe, maybe they were never shipped back to Japan. That could explain why Honda never euro type approved/tested it and why it hasn't been/can't it be UK registered.

Both the above cars appear at the Nurburgring in these videos...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSzov3vIzsk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7FRwuq2krA

Cheers

Mark

NZNick

04-05-2015, 02:51 AM

The orange car (in Mark's L421 WMR post (http://www.nsxcb.co.uk/showthread.php?372-Whereabouts-of-L421-WMR-%28NSX-Type-S-%29)) and vid #1 is an S-Zero - no stereo and no aerial hole on the rear passenger wing - see post # 5 pic # 2 and @ 6:52 in the first YouTube clip.

The "Honda" car in this thread has both a stereo (visually confirmed) and an aerial hole (guess).

Not the same car me thinks.

Not had the need to unscrew the knob yet Mark, just enjoying the sublime action of the shift ...... and yes, it does feel like the unobtainium key :D

Thanks for the links to the vids - I'll watch them in full tonight when I get home from work. Hopefully my car is OK as we have just had a severe earthquake not too far away.....

both house and car are undamaged - some light damage in Wanaka.

markc

04-05-2015, 10:20 AM

The orange car (in Mark's L421 WMR post (http://www.nsxcb.co.uk/showthread.php?372-Whereabouts-of-L421-WMR-%28NSX-Type-S-%29)) and vid #1 is an S-Zero - no stereo and no aerial hole on the rear passenger wing - see post # 5 pic # 2 and @ 6:52 in the first YouTube clip.

The "Honda" car in this thread has both a stereo (visually confirmed) and an aerial hole (guess).

Not the same car me thinks.

You're right Nick the car at the Nurburgring is an S Zero but the car at the start of the first video (at Tanaka circuit in Japan) is a "regular" Type S.

This actually a 3 part video and I'd posted sections 2 and 3. The first section is here... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7FRwuq2krA

VTEC say the car is from Honda R&D, which I think is in Germany (fro Eurpoe), not HUK so there may be more to the story. There's no question the car is exists and is currently in the UK unregistered. I wonder what happened to the black Type S (wearing P888 RAM) Gan San is tooling around Switzerland in?

Cheers

Mark

Jivaldinho

06-05-2015, 07:45 PM

A little more info, so the car doesn't belong to Honda UK but Honda R&D.

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Jivaldinho

06-05-2015, 08:05 PM

Back on topic...

Honda NSX seats in Alcantara and red leather centre purchased from Yahoo Japan Auctions. Just missed out on the door cards though. I really need to stay way from that site as there are some bargains to be found! Hopefully I will have the NSX-R carpets real soon and then will look to do the dash in Alcantara + red stitching as well. This was supposed to be a long term project but the parts becoming available and at a decent price I just can't help myself!

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Jivaldinho

09-05-2015, 05:57 PM

BREAKTHROUGH: - So the new loom arrived from Japan and VTEC Direct have been busy servicing, and putting the car back together with the new Engine loom. I was there for the car start-up this morning. The car started up properly first time and then we tested to see if it would rev up to and over 4000 rpm.... It did!!!!!! hell yeah!!!!

BIG THANKS to Kaz for the information that led to VTEC Direct going down the path they did, I owe you a crate of beer for sure!!!! Now all that is left is:-

1. Finish putting car back together

2. Custom ICE install including Nexus 7 (gen 1 ) + Dock, Double Din Dab Stereo, custom 8" passenger footwell sub install, Component Speakers for the doors, Reversing camera, front and rear recording cameras, automated popup screen to view said cameras installed in hole left by passenger airbag removal (airbag was already removed prior to me getting it)

3. Fit NSX-R steering wheel.

4. Incorporate cruise control controls somewhere close to the driver

5. fit new seats when they arrive and get alcantara door cards and dashboard trim.

6. Taitec GT-011 Headers (2016) - found these for £600 in Japan

7. New Exhaust (2016) - still trying to figure out which exhaust to go for