Shawnsx5
17-02-2016, 10:40 PM
Members will be aware that the number of NA1 cars being imported has increased recently and I was surprised that I had not seen any NA2 cars also being imported. Looking at Japanese websites you see the same pattern as the UK with very few, if any, NA2 (pre-facelift or facelift) cars for sale, those that are for sale command high prices.
For clarity I am using what I believe is the correct definition of NA2 which is 1997 to 2005 cars with 3.2 litre engine and 6 speed manual transmission (MT).
My estimate uses data sources I had previously seen:
1. NSXCB,
2. NSXPrime http://www.nsxprime.com/forum/showthread.php/88373-Production-Numbers
3. MACS Honda NSX Specialist http://www.macs-tokyo.co.jp/about/color.html (with aid of google translate),
Although there are some inconsistencies and missing data items it seems the worldwide RHD NA2 numbers are even lower than I would have guessed.
The UK 97 to 02 sales data shows 85 Facelift cars and 64 Pre facelift, I have assumed 50:50 for NA1:NA2 in 1997. I cannot see anywhere that shows a split for MT/AT. If I assume 50:50 split this gives 75 UK NA2 cars.
The MAC data shows there are only 40 in 1997 to 2002 listed for Asia/Oceana/Other (AOO) some of which could be RHD. The MAC data also that shows a total of 193 NA2 (3.2) cars up to 2004 for Japan and a total of 65 for 2005 Japan cars. So if we assume half of 2005 Japanese and AOO cars are NA2 we have 193+20+33=246 NA2 RHD outside UK.
So I estimate the worldwide RHD NA2 number is <= 325.
All the above numbers exclude the NA2 Type S/S Zero and Type R models, these were reported in 2007 on NSXCB as being:
152x NSX-R NA2
30x NSX S Zero NA2
248x NSX Type S NA2 (209x 1997-2001; 39x 2002+)
5x NSX-R GT NA2
Total NA2 all models = 760, with only 10% (75) of these being UK cars.
The only number that I can question here is the 152 NA2 R as I recall 140 being quoted elsewhere.
So with total worldwide RHD production around 9,000 including 483 NA1 NSX-R the NA2 models account for less 10% of all RHD NSX.
Finally the Facelift 3.0 litre Autos are also very scarce of course, so I would conclude that due to low numbers we are unlikely to see many imports of any NA2 or facelift cars of any model type, meaning they will remain a very rare sight in the UK.
I would be interested if anyone has any other data or analysis to assist validate, correct or improve the above estimate.
For clarity I am using what I believe is the correct definition of NA2 which is 1997 to 2005 cars with 3.2 litre engine and 6 speed manual transmission (MT).
My estimate uses data sources I had previously seen:
1. NSXCB,
2. NSXPrime http://www.nsxprime.com/forum/showthread.php/88373-Production-Numbers
3. MACS Honda NSX Specialist http://www.macs-tokyo.co.jp/about/color.html (with aid of google translate),
Although there are some inconsistencies and missing data items it seems the worldwide RHD NA2 numbers are even lower than I would have guessed.
The UK 97 to 02 sales data shows 85 Facelift cars and 64 Pre facelift, I have assumed 50:50 for NA1:NA2 in 1997. I cannot see anywhere that shows a split for MT/AT. If I assume 50:50 split this gives 75 UK NA2 cars.
The MAC data shows there are only 40 in 1997 to 2002 listed for Asia/Oceana/Other (AOO) some of which could be RHD. The MAC data also that shows a total of 193 NA2 (3.2) cars up to 2004 for Japan and a total of 65 for 2005 Japan cars. So if we assume half of 2005 Japanese and AOO cars are NA2 we have 193+20+33=246 NA2 RHD outside UK.
So I estimate the worldwide RHD NA2 number is <= 325.
All the above numbers exclude the NA2 Type S/S Zero and Type R models, these were reported in 2007 on NSXCB as being:
152x NSX-R NA2
30x NSX S Zero NA2
248x NSX Type S NA2 (209x 1997-2001; 39x 2002+)
5x NSX-R GT NA2
Total NA2 all models = 760, with only 10% (75) of these being UK cars.
The only number that I can question here is the 152 NA2 R as I recall 140 being quoted elsewhere.
So with total worldwide RHD production around 9,000 including 483 NA1 NSX-R the NA2 models account for less 10% of all RHD NSX.
Finally the Facelift 3.0 litre Autos are also very scarce of course, so I would conclude that due to low numbers we are unlikely to see many imports of any NA2 or facelift cars of any model type, meaning they will remain a very rare sight in the UK.
I would be interested if anyone has any other data or analysis to assist validate, correct or improve the above estimate.