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Mistercorn
30-10-2016, 10:32 AM
What would you guys think if you popped the bonnet of a car and saw welds of this quality. Apologies for the poor photo quality, not easy to photograph shiny black surfaces.

http://i1333.photobucket.com/albums/w627/eaxmjhi/NSX/20161027_085145_zpsipuuip0v.jpg (http://s1333.photobucket.com/user/eaxmjhi/media/NSX/20161027_085145_zpsipuuip0v.jpg.html)

http://i1333.photobucket.com/albums/w627/eaxmjhi/NSX/20161027_085151_zps7udjfwgh.jpg (http://s1333.photobucket.com/user/eaxmjhi/media/NSX/20161027_085151_zps7udjfwgh.jpg.html)

http://i1333.photobucket.com/albums/w627/eaxmjhi/NSX/20161027_085204_zps6hxlbeub.jpg (http://s1333.photobucket.com/user/eaxmjhi/media/NSX/20161027_085204_zps6hxlbeub.jpg.html)

http://i1333.photobucket.com/albums/w627/eaxmjhi/NSX/20161027_085218_zpsoe4tcneg.jpg (http://s1333.photobucket.com/user/eaxmjhi/media/NSX/20161027_085218_zpsoe4tcneg.jpg.html)

MC

Pride
30-10-2016, 04:09 PM
Interesting, what model car is this???
Not that it really matters but just curious to know.

NSXGB
30-10-2016, 05:09 PM
Very poor.

Silver Surfer
30-10-2016, 07:17 PM
The manufacturer spent their money elsewhere....

SS

Mistercorn
30-10-2016, 07:19 PM
Another couple of photos, recognise the model??

http://i1333.photobucket.com/albums/w627/eaxmjhi/NSX/20161025_154809_zpsplce0dm5.jpg (http://s1333.photobucket.com/user/eaxmjhi/media/NSX/20161025_154809_zpsplce0dm5.jpg.html)

http://i1333.photobucket.com/albums/w627/eaxmjhi/NSX/20161025_154816_zpse1vu8fel.jpg (http://s1333.photobucket.com/user/eaxmjhi/media/NSX/20161025_154816_zpse1vu8fel.jpg.html)

I was suprised, to say the least.

MC

Pride
30-10-2016, 07:37 PM
Another couple of photos, recognise the model??

http://i1333.photobucket.com/albums/w627/eaxmjhi/NSX/20161025_154809_zpsplce0dm5.jpg (http://s1333.photobucket.com/user/eaxmjhi/media/NSX/20161025_154809_zpsplce0dm5.jpg.html)

http://i1333.photobucket.com/albums/w627/eaxmjhi/NSX/20161025_154816_zpse1vu8fel.jpg (http://s1333.photobucket.com/user/eaxmjhi/media/NSX/20161025_154816_zpse1vu8fel.jpg.html)

I was suprised, to say the least.

MC

I used to do a far bit of welding in the past and I have to say you can never call a weld very poor without realising the materials used and in this case no doubt a mix of composite alloys, so you can rest assured that those welds will be super strong and very high tech even if they do look a bit ugly.
Very interesting though.

NSXGB
31-10-2016, 07:23 AM
Very, very poor, must have been rushed to speed up delivery...

Senninha
31-10-2016, 07:43 AM
Are you sure that's a weld in the traditional sense ... looks an awful lot like glue to me ... and given the complex mix of materials could it not be glue?

"Very, very poor, must have been rushed to speed up delivery... " don't tell Paul, he wants a good one not an ex-display

Nick Graves
31-10-2016, 04:39 PM
Yeah - if that's the front slam panel, it's bolted-on.

Mind you, the new spaceframe is welded more like a bike frame, than the spot-welded sheet ally like we're used to.

There's some You Tube!! of it being constructed. It's fascinating.

Pride
31-10-2016, 06:25 PM
New technology, ablation casting welds on the new NSX production line will apparently always look a mess compared to conventional welding techniques.

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Every weld is visually inspected and repaired or rejected as necessary before the space frame advances. Also worth noting is the large casting you see here, which will support the left rear suspension and powertrain. The NSX uses six that constitute the world’s first automotive application of ablation casting. Basically, the sand molds are water soluble so that soon after the molten aluminum is poured into them, water jets “ablate” or blast away the sand, cooling the metal rapidly and directionally. This produces a finer, stronger microstructure that allows for lighter, thin-wall castings that absorb crash energy better.