Hid kit

[umran9]

Hi which hid kits are people using in the early Na1 Nsx? I tried 2 different H1 Kits but both times the light flickers! Will i have to use a Canbus kit or something...
Thanks in advance

[Pride]

Hi which hid kits are people using in the early Na1 Nsx? I tried 2 different H1 Kits but both times the light flickers! Will i have to use a Canbus kit or something...
Thanks in advance

I wouldn't bother now as the new MOT regulations which have just come into effect have outlawed the fitting of any after market hid kits to pass the test.

[umran9]

I wouldn't bother now as the new MOT regulations which have just come into effect have outlawed the fitting of any after market hid kits to pass the test.
I have a friendly mot guy...

[britlude]

nothing to stop you putting conventional bulbs in for the test, and swapping in hids after tho.... at least hids in the NSX projectors are better than those that put them in H4 headlights and blind everyone coming the other way, hence the change in the rules....

[mart155]

This is a very timely post as I am just trying to put mine back to standard bulbs.
The kit was installed when I got the car but the new bulbs I bought (which are meant to be for an early NSX) don't fit in the back of the headlight. They are too big to go through the badly rusted backplate. Seems whoever fitted them didnt replace the dust cover :-(
Not sure if it makes ant difference but mine is a JDM.

Anyone got any ideas please.

[britlude]

my JDM has just got H1 bulbs in the headlights.....

[mart155]

Thanks Jonathan, saved me a bit of head scratching. I'll get some H1's tomorrow

[Sudesh]

If the vehicle has headlight wash, then it's fine to fit HID/Xenon headlight aftermarket kits. Just fit the kit nice and neatly too. This is what I was told anway & believe me, they are REAL strict when it comes to The MOT system here. It is government run, so no friendly back hander

[britlude]

technically in UK it needs wash and electronically adjustable aim/dip and the correct HID lenses..... just to be annoying

[Sudesh]

That's not what I was told by any of the MOT stations here in N.I & as mention, it's much more strict here than UK. You "cannot" just go to your local garage for an MOT here than in UK. The vehicle has to go to an MOT Station. I have a vehicle that has an aftermarket HID kit & Headlight wash. It does not have anything else like projecter lenses etc & in all the years I've owned it there has never been an issue. It has just passed another mot again 4 weeks ago NOT one mention of anything.

[britlude]

Then they missed them, the rules in England changed May 20th, after market HIDs retrofitted into halogen lenses is now illegal and won't pass, along with oil leaks and check engine lights that are on. Removing abs systems on post 2006(?) Now illegal too and won't pass mot..... All since it's gone computerised it's all changed!!!! And we can't just go to a local garage for an MOT, they are all vosa/dvsa governed

[Sudesh]

Well the guy must have been in good mood & just had a bite to eat. You say the rules changed in may, it's now July & my vehicle had no issues. Sometimes it's just down to the guy you get I get. I'm l real happy with the HID kit, I only kept it on the dip, not the full been. It made a huge change.

[Nick Graves]

Apparently, the HID rule does not apply to cars registered pre-2008.

I'm not arguing with that.

I left a couple of H1s in the car, just in case. But not needed.

[NZNick]

HID lights were available on some JDM NSX from when the NA2 was introduced in 1997, and standard on most JDM NSX from late 1999. Parts are v. expensive, but fit the pop-up lights properly.

[Heineken]

My 1997 JDM with was equipped with factory HID and pop-up headlights. Unfortunately it had to be converted to regular Halogen for the registration in Germany.

[britlude]

probably as the dipped beam kickup was for rhd roads.....

[NSXGB]

Do you still have all the parts?

[Silver Surfer]

Heineken,
Can I buy all the parts off you if you do?

SS

[Heineken]

The change was necessary for two reasons: First the RHD beam design and second because HID in Germany is only allowed if automatic leveling and a washing system is installed (unless the lights are below a certain power level which is not the case with the NSX)

The parts are still with me and I was planning to sell them, just haven't realized it yet.

[NSXGB]

Heineken,
Can I buy all the parts off you if you do?

SS

Oi, get to the back of the queue! ;)

[Pride]

The parts are still with me and I was planning to sell them, just haven't realized it yet.

You should start a bidding auction on this Heineken, I'm good on those and would definitely be interested in bidding for these.:)

[Heineken]

Might be worth trying .. is there a preferred way to do that or should I just open up the Bazaar here :D?

[Pride]

Might be worth trying .. is there a preferred way to do that or should I just open up the Bazaar here :D?

In that case I'll kick off the bidding with a healthy £200!!!

[Heineken]

OK ;), let's start with some data from the JDM parts list:



2x 33101-SL0-305 円 145,328 Headlight unit
2x 33102-SL0-J02 円 105,774 Igniter
2x 76101-SL0-A02 円 80,576 Retraction mechanism
2x 76150-SL0-A02 円 77,352 Retraction motor
1x 76120-SL0-A00ZZ 円 30,033 Lid (headlight cover, one is broken)
1x 33108-SL0-003 円 99,328 Inverter unit (HID) (only one needed)
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円 538,391 ~ 3.610,45 GBP


13566

13567

13568

Above prices are for brand new parts but could .. maybe .. eventually .. serve as a (very) rough indication .. towards .. used parts .. :rolleyes:

[WhyOne?]

OK ;), let's start with some data from the JDM parts list:



2x 33101-SL0-305 円 145,328 Headlight unit
2x 33102-SL0-J02 円 105,774 Igniter
2x 76101-SL0-A02 円 80,576 Retraction mechanism
2x 76150-SL0-A02 円 77,352 Retraction motor
1x 76120-SL0-A00ZZ 円 30,033 Lid (headlight cover, one is broken)
1x 33108-SL0-003 円 99,328 Inverter unit (HID) (only one needed)
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円 538,391 ~ 3.610,45 GBP




Crikey!!!!

[RedCarsGoFaster]

Hooooly cow.

Super cool conversion, but with a price tag to match!

Do you know if the harnesses are plug and play?

[Silver Surfer]

Jeeps.... at that price..I’ll build my own....

£ 201 ��

SS

[NZNick]

I did warn you that they weren't cheap! The bulbs are a pretty price too.
The inverter unit is much cheaper (half the price above) from JP-carparts.com
The retraction mechanism & motor are similar if not the same as on the non-hid lights, so maybe you can get away with just the igniter, 2 inverters and the 2 HID bulbs.

[Heineken]

The Honda HIDs are notoriously expensive and the harness is unfortunately not plug and play, especially as the inverters are located near the firewall on the passenger side so extra routing is necessary.

The technical design is also a bit special: The inverters are without the ignitor coil. That one is located near the bulbs.

As the lights do not have any e-marks they are probably illegal in GB (although I'm not sure).

If someone would want to install OEM HIDs he would need the Headlight Unit, Igniter and Inverter. The remaining parts should be compatible.

I'm kind of sorry for spoiling the fun but even the regular Halogen headlight unit is at around 90,000 円 already so it's the usual Honda OEM price madness..

Me personally, I'm would consider the OEM setup only for the die hard "full original" guys due to price and complexity.

There are plenty of kits and NSX assembly instructions available online for a retrofit, obviously much cheaper and easier to install than the OEM setup :)

[Nick Graves]

Indeed - even a high quality kit with decent bulbs (what else..?) is not that expensive and is plug & play.

[RedCarsGoFaster]

The thought about legality had crossed my mind. The MOT guidance (probably abbreviated from actual law) states that HID headlights must be designed and approved for HID bulbs. The guidance doesn't explicitly say that the approving authority must be the UK (or even a European) government body, but you might be pushing your luck to argue that as a loophole in court.

I suspect the JDM lights would stand up to a much more detailed inspection than an HID kit as there is no obvious aftermarket conversion. For them to be of best value you'd need an MOT tester sharp enough to spot an aftermarket kit, but not sharp enough to spot a missing E-mark . . . hmn!

They're still part of a battery of tweaks that would be included in my dream NSX build - I see them a bit like the later spec ABS conversion. One day . . .

Is anyone in a position to pass comment on the effectiveness of the JDM HID units against non HID units retrofitted with HID bulbs?

[Heineken]

What might come to your advantage regarding the e-mark, most modern cars don't have them anymore (I guess they are now part of the overall vehicle registration) so it's a dying art form to check for them ..