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philboo
17-03-2019, 07:24 PM
Hello.

My battery has died totally during storage even whilst on a Ctek charger. I wasn’t prepared for this and need to move it on Wednesday. I’ve had a look on the forum and seen 31500-SV2-001HE-SV2-001HEmentioned as the original replacement (mines a manual 3.0) and to buy direct from Honda.

Is this still the correct part and do you think I’d be able to get one for Wednesday if I order it tomorrow.

If not, can anyone give me the detail of a currently available alternative I’d be able to get quickly.

Many thanks

Phil

britlude
17-03-2019, 08:27 PM
no doubt people will disagree, but the lead acid battery tech pretty much hasn't changed for a car since the car began!

so as long as it's 005L spec, just buy one from the shop that has it in stock as you are in a rush!!!! local motor factor, battery specialist, or halfords (if you are desperate....) most come with a 3 year guarantee anyway

not recommending this, just a quick google search example that shows the critical bits, the basic size and the terminal layout

https://www.tayna.co.uk/car-batteries/enduroline/005l/

duncan
17-03-2019, 08:41 PM
I'm happy to recommend Tayna, I've bought batteries from them, cheaper than Halfords and delivered to your door.
Last battery change for the NSX was from a Honda dealer, price OK [Honda Happiness?] and with excellent forum recommendations.
I went for the battery for an Auto [though mine's a manual] as it fits and has a greater capacity.

philboo
17-03-2019, 08:42 PM
Hi Jonathan

When you say just buy one, do you mean to just trust the equivalent they suggest ? I’m concerned I’d end up something that wouldn’t fit

Pride
17-03-2019, 09:04 PM
Hi Philboo, I've got in my garage a brand new unused Honda NSX battery which you can have for just £60+p&p guaranteed next day delivery (Tuesday)or free pick up from me which ever you prefer.

PM me if interested.

13636

13637

britlude
17-03-2019, 09:15 PM
ah, i forgot the epic Pride battery saga!!!!


everyone suggests the 005L as that's the battery size that matches oem sizing/layout/spec.... i'm sure if you went to honda and got the battery, whoever the manufacturer is that actually makes it will list it un-honda-branded as a 005L battery :)

they are all a muchness, tho you can find them with a slightly higher Ah, and CCA ratings....... but as supply and demand (more delivery time) is against you, its a case of who has got what!

philboo
17-03-2019, 09:31 PM
Sounds great. I’ll send you a message

Kaz-kzukNA1
17-03-2019, 10:22 PM
For MT, 31500-SV2-011HE
It's now £101 RRP. Used to be much cheaper than that.
12V 65AH
BCI 525, DIN 250 or uprated by now as the manufature/base model changes over the years and the technology advances.
CCA 520A (EN) or above.

aka 70D23L-MF for MT model.

Check with your local Honda garage for the delivery schedule.
Or, just pick up the equivalent from the above link.
If visiting Halford, look for Yuasa HSB005. Can't go wrong with Yuasa.

Kaz

nobby
17-03-2019, 10:24 PM
Yuasa are great batteries... use them on all my cars when required

NZNick
18-03-2019, 01:09 AM
As long as the battery physically fits, has the same terminal configuration as the OEM one, and has the same Voltage (!), & at least the same CCA, RC & AH ratings as the current OEM one, then it will be fine.

I have bought a Bosch SM Mega Power Silver battery for my daily driver, but there isn't an NSX-sized battery available.

In the UK Halfords will get the battery to the store of your choosing next day if not in stock already.

philboo
18-03-2019, 07:42 AM
Thank you Kaz. I’ve accepted pride’s offer but your info would be my next solution.

Many thanks

Phil


For MT, 31500-SV2-011HE
It's now £101 RRP. Used to be much cheaper than that.
12V 65AH
BCI 525, DIN 250 or uprated by now as the manufature/base model changes over the years and the technology advances.
CCA 520A (EN) or above.

aka 70D23L-MF for MT model.

Check with your local Honda garage for the delivery schedule.
Or, just pick up the equivalent from the above link.
If visiting Halford, look for Yuasa HSB005. Can't go wrong with Yuasa.

Kaz

Kaz-kzukNA1
18-03-2019, 10:21 AM
Phil, glad you can get the battery within your time frame.

As a side note, I'm waiting with my popcorn out for Pride to report another battery or even acg failure, possibly some point next year….
Only less than 12 months from last Supercar Sunday event at Silverstone 500.
Dead battery but ACG regulator was still trying to charge it so it got super-hot.

Kaz

britlude
18-03-2019, 10:43 AM
Glad your battery is getting sorted out! Did we ever get to the bottom of prides battery saga????

Pride
18-03-2019, 10:56 AM
Phil, glad you can get the battery within your time frame.

As a side note, I'm waiting with my popcorn out for Pride to report another battery or even acg failure, possibly some point next year….
Only less than 12 months from last Supercar Sunday event at Silverstone 500.
Dead battery but ACG regulator was still trying to charge it so it got super-hot.

Kaz

If I was you I'd put your popcorn on hold Kaz as the charging system and battery power is fully up to speed and showing no problems at all.
I must admit it was an extreme test of the ACG regulator reliability last year when it almost had a melt down but now just stays cool.

I'm looking forward to the Silverstone 500 again this year with even more tricks and toys on board to show people, I'm hoping they'll be amazed when they see it.

Hopefully I'll see you there.😎

Pride
18-03-2019, 11:09 AM
Glad your battery is getting sorted out! Did we ever get to the bottom of prides battery saga????

Just for Jonathan here's a copy my last posting of the battery saga:


And now the mystery of my brand new replacement Honda flat battery has finally been solved.

If you you recall I stated:
"Due to the fact it came out of a sealed box from the main dealer the last thing on my mind would be to do a drop test on this battery, so psychologically I thought the battery would be 100% perfect."

Taking the battery back for a credit note refund to Yeomans Honda yesterday, only because I'd already replaced my battery with a Yuasa battery, I discovered why the so called "new" battery was knackered.

After exchanging the battery four weeks ago under the warranty, Yeomans called me up a couple of weeks later to say that they couldn't find fault with my old battery, I said that was impossible and that they should try connecting it up to a car and try cranking it as they said they didn't have a heavy duty drop tester. I never heard back from them so I assumed they found it faulty after doing so.

The new Honda battery, as you all know if you've ever bought one, comes in a sealed box filled with what I call chicken feed to protect it from being damaged in transit, this stuff gets everywhere including all the crevices in the underside of the battery casing so it was taken into the workshop to be air gunned off, while at the same time my battery was cleaned up with a WD40 soaked cloth.

I'm sure you now know what's coming, yep you guessed it, they gave me back my old battery by mistake, looking brand new after it's thorough sprucing up.

The way that was discovered was that Yeomans pulled out my old battery from their warranty department to explain they couldn't find fault with it and I clamped my Snap-On drop tester across it expecting to see the metre drop instantly into the "black" dead area and to my amazement it held up strong in the Green area lighting up the element like an electric cooker ring.

As a way of an apology from them for mixing up my replacement battery 4 weeks ago Yeomans gave me a £50 credit note to spend on parts when ever I needed but also they gave me the brand new £110 battery to keep as they said they'd disposed of the old box it came in and therefore couldn't take it back into stock.

So even though it gave me a major scratching of my head to resolve what was in the end a simple problem, at least they did this.

SO ON THAT NOTE IF ANYONE NEEDS OR WANTS A BRAND NEW NEVER USED HONDA NSX BATTERY FOR JUST £60 THEN PLEASE JUST PM ME.

http://www.nsxcb.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=13517&d=1532253668&thumb=1 (http://www.nsxcb.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=13517&d=1532253668)

I'm sure this sort of thing only happens to me. :)

Nick Graves
18-03-2019, 02:36 PM
Damn!

Totally forgot about this before I paid £96 for a Honda one a week or so back.

Mark N
19-03-2019, 02:10 AM
Yuasa £70⅚

Mark N
19-03-2019, 02:22 AM
Yuasa £70 from local motor factors

NZNick
19-03-2019, 06:10 AM
The three choices from Halfords. (https://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/VehicleProductGuidedSalesCmd?action=getProducts&storeId=10001&catalogId=10151&categoryId=165762&langId=-1&findPartsMMYS=Find&engineInd=&makeName=24&modelName=24011&dvlaYear=35&subsetEngine=24011100&subsetBodyShape=24011050)

lotusolly
19-03-2019, 08:13 AM
I have had issues with the Yuasa silver battery.

My car is stored in a garage without power so I can't connect a conditioner and it regularly runs flat and gets jump started. I know this is not good for the battery but I don't have much option unfortunately.

I needed an urgent replacement and bought the Yuasa from Halfords but I found after a short period it wasn't holding charge. I took the battery off the car to charge on a conventional charger and within a short time I was getting a strong sulphurous smell. Halfords replaced the battery under warranty but I again had issues with holding charge after a couple of weeks and when I took a closer look at the battery the casing looked very bulbous as if it was highly pressurised. Took it back to Halfords who did give me a refund and I replaced it with a battery from Honda and have had no problems since.

Olly

britlude
19-03-2019, 09:47 AM
You could fit a battery disconnect to isolate the battery when you put it in storage so the various circuits don't drain the battery... You'll lose the radio and any stored info in the computers, but that happens anyway if it drains to flat, but less risk of ruining a battery and more chance of starting it when you return....

philboo
20-03-2019, 05:30 PM
Thanks to Prides generous offer (and the backup offered by Kaz) my car is now working again.

Thank you forum members.

Pride
20-03-2019, 05:54 PM
Cheers Phil, no problem.

Just to say that if your NSX isn't used as a daily then I'd strongly suggest getting yourself a CTEK MX5 digital pulse battery charger which incorporates a fully automatic battery conditioner, so there's no need to keep having to remember to turn it on and off.

philboo
20-03-2019, 07:43 PM
That is what I have it connected to. I think the battery has just totally died as it was just causing the charger to flash the exclamation mark indicator and didn’t show any status of battery condition. No such problem with your replacement :-)



Cheers Phil, no problem.

Just to say that if your NSX isn't used as a daily then I'd strongly suggest getting yourself a CTEK MX5 digital pulse battery charger which incorporates a fully automatic battery conditioner, so there's no need to keep having to remember to turn it on and off.

britlude
20-03-2019, 09:16 PM
how about this sort of thing...

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Qiorange-Battery-Switch-6V-24V-Disconnect/dp/B07CTCXMTF/ref=pd_lpo_vtph_263_tr_t_2?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=4Z5W8C68G709JYWFA10M

Pride
20-03-2019, 09:36 PM
how about this sort of thing...

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Qiorange-Battery-Switch-6V-24V-Disconnect/dp/B07CTCXMTF/ref=pd_lpo_vtph_263_tr_t_2?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=4Z5W8C68G709JYWFA10M

Good idea, I've bought one and I wasn't even even thinking about it until you posted this.:)

WhyOne?
21-03-2019, 07:16 AM
Assuming you have ready access to a power supply, is the best solution not to keep the battery connected to the car (this maintaining memories on various systems) and to use a CTEK style charger for the period the car is laid up?

goldnsx
21-03-2019, 07:36 AM
Professional car storage places even dismount the battery and put it in a separate/safe place. The insurance company requires that to reduce the risk of a fire.

If you leave the battery in the car it doesn't make a big difference if the terminals are still connected while you permantently use a CTEC charger. There are no negative effects on the electronics.

Pride
21-03-2019, 10:17 AM
Good idea, I've bought one and I wasn't even even thinking about it until you posted this.:)

This has got to be the quickest delivery on record:

13650

Kaz-kzukNA1
21-03-2019, 11:24 AM
SAE/JIS VS DIN.
Hope it's the correct size....


Kaz

Pride
21-03-2019, 12:01 PM
SAE/JIS VS DIN.
Hope it's the correct size....


Kaz

Only one way to find out and I'll let you know soon.

Kaz-kzukNA1
14-07-2019, 12:55 PM
Thank you to britlude (Jonathan) and duncan at post #2 & #3 for introducing the Tayna Batteries.

Recently, had great service from them for Yuasa battery with next day delivery.
Details here; http://www.nsxcb.co.uk/entry.php?2518-Yuasa-Battery-01

Kaz

britlude
04-01-2020, 03:37 PM
just ordered a new battery for mine (an xmas present of a new dash cam has shown the current battery is not performing well!) so have ordered myself a Yuasa YBX5005 off of the interweb! i've got one coming from Ebay for £69.56 (not sure how long this link will be valid https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/253815961822 ) it's worth looking around as the swing in prices is ridiculous!!!

for those less adventurous, here's the tayna linky, as the yuasa doesn't come up on the general 005 battery search....

https://www.tayna.co.uk/car-batteries/yuasa/ybx5005/