I like it!

[AR]

http://www.autoblog.com/2008/06/17/spy-shots-acura-nsx-hits-the-streets/

[eclipse1501]

I thought I recognised that livery, almost identical to
http://www.pistonheads.com/doc.asp?c=52&i=18057

[simonprelude]

It's not an NSX though is it :(

[AR]

I thought I recognised that livery, almost identical to
http://www.pistonheads.com/doc.asp?c=52&i=18057

Looks like WWII Ship's camouflage!

[eclipse1501]

Looks like WWII Ship's camouflage!

So mote it be.;)

[AR]

So mote it be.;)


http://www.davehamilton.org/Just%20for%20fun/smiley%20handshake.gif

[TheSebringOne]

Looks like a compact Nissy 350Z underneath!? To me if the next NSX is going GT, then it very compact in length, a bit Vantage V8 ish? Are those special BS tyres?

[666NA1]

Looks like a 350Z to me....and its not as sleek and agressive as the current version...

also bears a strong resemblance to the 350GT Skyline..

[jaytip]

Whatever it is,it aint an NSX :no:

[dan the man]

yup 1st thing i thought was the rooflines 350 zed

[Boomin33]

Looks like we'll have to go to the ITI's, Or the M600 :rolleyes:
to get anything in line with the looks of our current pride and joys.

Then again that was the idea at it's launch, wasn't it? Seems they've moved away from that goal.

Would have been interesting to see some ground-breaking Pina Ferina design input; rather than team Japan.

But, behold, this is the future (for the time being) of japanese sports cars.

[TheSebringOne]

ITIs or M600? Sorry if you have to explain?

Its original inspiration for its shape & design was infact an F16 jet fighter!

[simonprelude]

Italians or Noble.

This is my current thought on upgrade / replacement.

http://www.farbiosportscars.com/downloads/images/fs/gts_9275.jpg

http://www.farbiosportscars.com/

Prices start around £60k


ITIs or M600? Sorry if you have to explain?

Its original inspiration for its shape & design was infact an F16 jet fighter!

[Boomin33]

ITIs or M600? Sorry if you have to explain?

Its original inspiration for its shape & design was infact an F16 jet fighter!

I don't know the story, but from a punters perspective, I thought that Honda was taking on Ferrari (Italians) to a certain extent.
in performance and looks when they released the NSX. Hence why many people mistake it for a ferrari from time to time.?

So figure if we want something very special in looks & performance, The italians kinda of do a pretty good job these days. just to pricey on the maintainence.

The NobleM600 is a very good looking / performing motor also

[markc]

Better get in quick Simon before they go the way of all the other Britsh sports car start-ups ie BUST ;)

[simonprelude]

I have had several conversations with Chris Marsh, all sounds very promising.
But when I tried to move it on further their customer service sucks, unless you were willing to put down a £5k deposit they would not even let you look at the car.

They do have a London agent now, which I guess they needed, but why would I want to go to London to look at the car when I pass the shed they are made in most weeks :(


Better get in quick Simon before they go the way of all the other Britsh sports car start-ups ie BUST ;)

[NoelWatson]

I see the 997GT3 as being my next car

High revving NA engine
Reliable
Great chassis
Low(ish) running costs

[Senninha]

I see the 997GT3 as being my next car

High revving NA engine
Reliable
Great chassis
Low(ish) running costs

And having played chase through the Essex / Suffolk countryside I would concur .....

[abrunod@mac.com]

If the new NSX will be so muscle i will never sell mine its realy not good they want to follow the road of nissan but the car look like a tank and no a sportcar

Honda i think that another car like the nsx they will never produce e perfect balanced car like they did NSX will become a piece of History and i will take care.

The new trend of sportcar don't have perosonality like the new gtr good car amazing but where is the personality the fashion actualy when i look the gtr i feel nothing and when i look my nsx i say good this is a sport gt car

I hope that honda they will look back on nsx

Regards
Andrea

[kowalski]

Not too keen on the front engined layout, If i go this route I would get an Aston or if on a budget a Corvette.

Ideally will keep my NSX for as long as possible but if I had to replace it then I would get a Gallardo.

but if the 5.5 V10 would slot in ours....:D

leigh

[Senninha]

OK, just looked at the images and a few observations...

1. the claimed V10 must be a very compact unit to be packaged it what appears to be a small(ish) coupe ... maybe some real F1 learning applied?
2. looking at the rear I think there may be a 'nod' to the NSX in terms of an intergrated rear spoiler like the current car
3. it obviously isnt an NSX replacement, we've known this for some time
4. from image 13 (the only one with other vehicles close by) it suggests that this will still be a low car ... one thing I always note about the NSX is just how low the overall bodyline is even next to other sports cars
5. rims appear to be matched diameter
6. the +2 packaging will be interesting - rumours suggest useable rear seats and luggage space in line with original design goals of current car

Other questions will be

a. what price will they pitch at ... GTR money would be good but IMO must be sub £75k
b. model options, will there be manual, DSG (style) auto and will there be a properly stripped and UK available Type R
c. is it running the rumoured AWD system - this would be a real plus IMO as it would surely be close to GTR in performance and pose real threat to likes of 911, AMV8 and forthcoming baby F car

I wouldn't be looking to replace my NSX with this but would love to be in a position to run both :)

regards, Paul

[AR]

Italians or Noble.

This is my current thought on upgrade / replacement.

http://www.farbiosportscars.com/downloads/images/fs/gts_9275.jpg

http://www.farbiosportscars.com/

Prices start around £60k

Simon, just look at the Khan Wheels, they are cutting corners.

If I was in the market for something in that price range not Honda and exotic, F360 comes to mind as does the Gallardo but the real winner has to be:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AtYap7YSaU

[markc]

Dammed whichever way you turn... (tongue very firmly in cheek here guys :) )

If you go GT3 (a great car) you're a Porsche owner with all the negative connotations that go with it.
If you go Gallardo everyone will think you're a gangster rapper and/or drug dealer.
If you go Aston you're a James Bond wannabe or professional footballer.
If you go F360/430 you're a lottery winner.
If you go Nissan GTR you're a short on driving talent cheapskate.
If you go Corvette you can't even afford a RHD car.

My money would go the way of the Audi R8 and the boring video game/software developer tag that comes with it.

Ohh by the way, I DON'T like it (the camo Honda lash up)

Mark

[WhyOne?]

Don't like the Farbio (terrible name for a British carmaker!) - awkward and overstyled inside & out IMHO.

As has also been mentioned, the companies long term viability must also be a very serious concern.

Where do they source the engine from?

Edit: Ah! OK - Ford!

[AR]

The ZR1's basic stats:
* All-new LS9 supercharged 6.2L V-8 targeted at producing at least 100 horsepower per liter, or 620 horsepower (462 kW), and approximately 595 lb.-ft. of torque (823 Nm)
* Six-speed, close-ratio, race-hardened manual transmission
* New, high-capacity dual-disc clutch
* Higher-capacity and specific-diameter axle half-shafts; enhanced torque tube
* Specific suspension tuning provides more than 1g cornering grip
* Twenty-spoke 19-inch front and 20-inch rear wheels
* Michelin Pilot Sport 2 tires - P285/30ZR19 in front and P335/25ZR20 in the rear - developed specifically for the ZR1
* Standard carbon-ceramic, drilled disc brake rotors - 15.5-inch-diameter (394-mm) in the front and 15-inch-diameter (380-mm) in the rear
* Larger brake calipers with substantially increased pad area
* Standard Magnetic Selective Ride Control with track-level suspension
* Wider, carbon-fiber front fenders with ZR1-specific dual vents
* Carbon-fiber hood with a raised, polycarbonate window - offering a view of the intercooler below it
* Carbon-fiber roof panel, roof bow, front fascia splitter and rocker moldings with clear-coated, exposed carbon-fiber weave
* ZR1-specific full-width rear spoiler with raised outboard sections
* Specific gauge cluster with boost gauge (also displayed on the head-up display) and 220-mph (370 km/h) speedometer readout
* Only two options: chrome wheels and a "luxury" package
* Curb weight of approximately 3,350 pounds (1,519 kg)
The specialized components of the new ZR1 work harmoniously to deliver the most powerful and fastest automobile ever produced by General Motors. Performance estimates will be announced closer to vehicle's summer 2008 launch.
"Preliminary testing shows the ZR1 builds on the highly respected Corvette Z06 in every performance category, from acceleration and braking, to cornering grip and top speed," said Peper. "It all boils down to the power-to-weight ratio and the ZR1's is exceptional - better than the Porsche 911 GT2, the Ferrari 599 and even the Lamborghini LP640. In fact, the ZR1 is expected to be the first production Corvette to achieve a top speed of at least 200 mph."


So our Honda friends better get their asses in gear!

[dan the man]

AR good call on the KAHN crap... glad you said that. As soon as i saw them i thought why, out of the wheels- BBS, RAYS, etc etc.. they use KAHNs.. turd imo.

anyway any of the cars u lot are onabout id have :)

But 911s do the business- i wonder how many will like them more after seeing them destroy the ring this weekend, they are proper tools the G3T3s et al

[kowalski]

This could also be a good option when its launched next year?!

Lotus Eagle / Ethos?

[TheSebringOne]

Boomin33, sorry got wrong end of the stick, thought you were talking about styling cues rather than concept of why the car was built! Yes the NSX was brought out to kick the ass of the then Porker & 348! It taught them to make them reliable, more boot space, better shut lines & quality and since then all the exoticas have followed! :)

As Mark C says most of the junior supacars or proper supacars have certain negative image, they are have plus & negatives. Whatever people prefer over their P & Js, its down to personal taste, image, budgets, bangs per pounds etc. All I know some of the cars discussed I like, but it would have to be in white for me! But which one I would be telling then! :D

[Silver Surfer]

Any comments on this one?

http://www.coolhunting.com/images/BMWM1_3.jpg

http://www.coolhunting.com/images/BMWM1_2.jpg

http://www.coolhunting.com/images/BMWM1_4.jpg

SS

[simonprelude]

New BMW M1, yes :) apart from the wheels.

Shame it's a BMW though.
Looking forward to getting time to read 'Car' this weekend with the article on it.

[WhyOne?]

The 'M1 inspired' concept is friggin' huge.....somewhere there is a picture of it next to a proper M1 (which isn't a small car) and it absolutely dwarfs it!

[WhyOne?]

Here we go....ridiculous!

[markc]

We've had this discussion a couple of times before, last time prompted by the launch of the Nissan GTR. Anyway, regarding the M1 concept, isn't it nice when one of your predictions come true...

From this thread, http://nsxcb.co.uk/testvb/showthread.php?t=4528&highlight=lotus&page=5 here's Post 49...


Assuming really low volume or new start-ups can't count and the manufacturers mentioned so far in this thread can't either, IMHO only 2 names could pull it off... BMW and Lotus.

BMW have the brand and sub-brand (M-Power), motorsport heritage, finances, technical resources, scale, and ambition to do it. With current M3 4Ltr V8 and M5/6 5Ltr V10, they even have off the shelf engines to do it... I see no reason why they wouldn't? Sounds like a next gen M1 to me :)

Mark

In your face Nostradamus :)

Mark

[Boomin33]

shame they didn't do something of a NSX replacement... with the way the auto market, petrol future is going; although we've seen a lot of super-cool stuff that last 3 years, think the 'golden era' might close down. kind of like the early 90's...

or will we just see super, super light battery cell jobbers?

either way.. with the new release confirmed? guess we won't be seeing anything like these from Honda for many years to come? or is a replacement NSX still on the cards.....

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e289/JuanSV/NSX.jpg

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k135/x0hollister10x0/nsx16nz.jpg

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m157/ren17ren/2011-acura-nsx-2.jpg

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g171/marakaki_2006/honda-acura_nsx.jpg

[Boomin33]

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e322/Phanat/honda20nsx_05_a.jpg

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e322/Phanat/hondansx.jpg

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w97/citric_gold/nsx4.jpg


http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w58/surfnguy0822/Other%20car%20pics/nsxconcept.jpg

[Boomin33]

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d166/hektikvi3t/cars/2005nsx.jpg

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff76/JohnBonamy87/Blaq%20Album/51ee.jpg


Looks a lot like the Farbio, eh.






....

[Boomin33]

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k316/sinticlase/0612_z2007_acura_advanced_coupesket.jpg


http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk241/bigmike88088/car%20pics/2-2008-acura-nsx-advanced-sports-ca.jpg



http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa23/Grave_Digger_Dutch/Virtuel%20Tuning%20Cars%202/0-acuransxconceptcopyvc0.jpg

[AR]

F That and look listen and feel:

http://www.vimeo.com/1203603?pg=embed&sec=1203603

7:37 Ring time!!! :eek:

[Ewan]

Now I do like the sound of that! :yes:

I wonder if something akin to Mazda's Furai will be built in the same class as new NSX, GT-R, LF-A etc?
Anything that sounds remotely like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1BWv7iPFUg would be amazing...

The Furai concept is already on test at various tracks... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4Xl0i4uNGU

[markc]

Hmmm... anyone can use photoshop to morph an NSX, R8, and GTR into the next big thing but it sooo much more difficult to "photoshop" the actual chassis, engine and mechanics etc

It's similarly easy to make a race car sound like a racecar by building a err... racecar (like the 787b and Furai)

There's no question the HSC was on the right lines BUT anyone expecting the road version to sound like either of the above are kidding themselves.

Mark

[eclipse1501]

AR good call on the KAHN crap... glad you said that. As soon as i saw them i thought why, out of the wheels- BBS, RAYS, etc etc.. they use KAHNs.. turd imo.

anyway any of the cars u lot are onabout id have :)

But 911s do the business- i wonder how many will like them more after seeing them destroy the ring this weekend, they are proper tools the G3T3s et al

There is something to say for the 911. Ive got a 997 4S Cab just listed for sale on Pistonheads if anyone wants a reliable runaround fit for continental motoring, only 7000 miles covered
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/529349.htm
for what its worth my Acura NSX is definately not for sale. Nuff said

[Sudesh]

Read this today:

Honda CEO Demands NSX must be faster than GT-R

Honda's answer to the Nissan GT-R and Lexus LF A hit the ring earlier this week when our spies caught a black and white clad NSX prototype powering round the circuit. We had been questioning what kind of performance we can expect from Japan's newest supercar but now those questions have been answered after information has surfaced that Takeo Fukai, CEO of Honda demanded the development team build an NSX that is faster than both its Japanese rivals.

That would mean a lap time of at least 7 minutes 28 seconds would need to be achieved, that will certainly be a challenging task to undertake. Honda are going a little further upmarket than the GT-R with the package found under the hood with a front-mid mounted 5.5-liter V10 engine producing in the region of 550 ponies and 420 lb ft of torque.

Maximum efficiency for the engine will be achieved with a cylinder deactivation system when the car does not require all of its power such as at low speed. An eight-speed paddle-shifted automatic transmission is expected to pass the power to the wheels via a new version of Honda's Super-Handling All-Wheel-Drive system (SH-AWD).

The Honda/Acura NSX is still 2 years away but it will be interesting to see if they can once gain become Japan's ultimate supercar.
Source: http://www.worldcarfans.com/9080619.003/honda-ceo-demands-nsx-must-be-faster-than-gt-r

[jaytip]

Read this today:

Honda CEO Demands NSX must be faster than GT-R

Honda's answer to the Nissan GT-R and Lexus LF A hit the ring earlier this week when our spies caught a black and white clad NSX prototype powering round the circuit. We had been questioning what kind of performance we can expect from Japan's newest supercar but now those questions have been answered after information has surfaced that Takeo Fukai, CEO of Honda demanded the development team build an NSX that is faster than both its Japanese rivals.

That would mean a lap time of at least 7 minutes 28 seconds would need to be achieved, that will certainly be a challenging task to undertake. Honda are going a little further upmarket than the GT-R with the package found under the hood with a front-mid mounted 5.5-liter V10 engine producing in the region of 550 ponies and 420 lb ft of torque.

Maximum efficiency for the engine will be achieved with a cylinder deactivation system when the car does not require all of its power such as at low speed. An eight-speed paddle-shifted automatic transmission is expected to pass the power to the wheels via a new version of Honda's Super-Handling All-Wheel-Drive system (SH-AWD).

The Honda/Acura NSX is still 2 years away but it will be interesting to see if they can once gain become Japan's ultimate supercar.
Source: http://www.worldcarfans.com/9080619.003/honda-ceo-demands-nsx-must-be-faster-than-gt-r
I'll believe it when i see it.Honda have been spouting that same crap for years now.How many times have they promised(and failed)to deliver on the new NSX replacement :rolleyes:

[jaytip]

F That and look listen and feel:

http://www.vimeo.com/1203603?pg=embed&sec=1203603

7:37 Ring time!!! :eek:
I would prefere it if it sounded like this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSRbpNdCTUg

[forumadmin]

So what if you make a car 2-10 secs faster than another round the Ring? Can't you just get a faster driver?

If you're going to be faster AND be able to state it's all down to the car, surely you need to lap the ring in 7 mins?

[TheSebringOne]

Same here, heard it all before!! Previously they say they are moving up market into the GT class (how are they going to compete against AM springs to mind!), now mid engined again!? but at what retail price? 80-100K or make same mistake with pricing by making a loss on every NSX sold, I don't think so! Who would pay that for NSX at that price range, it would have to be one special car when a GTR could be yours for 60K!? My 2p

[Senninha]

Jetpilot3 writes on Prime...I love the current NSX body style, always have, always will.

But...Honda was smart in targeting this market of Front Engined cars because that's what sells. Maserati - check, Ferrari - check, Nissan GTR - check, Jaguar XKR -check you get the idea...

I tell you if Honda can pull off this "NSX" then it will definately target more than just ourselves as enthusiasts it will reach an whole other portion of the population who wouldn't normally buy an exotic or "mid-engined, low slung" sportscar. Honda's looking for sales numbers and making this upscale front engined "NSX" is key to achieving great sales numbers.

I welcome this car and I'm hoping/praying it kills the GTR (fugly monster truck).


Very similar to what I've been saying. This new car is NOT a direct NSX replacement, but a new flagship for the company (even though it will be badged Acura to help launch the brand in Europe)

If this is going to be a) quick b) 2+2 c) available with good DSG style 'box d) priced around £75k + options, then I know a few people that are already interested.

What Honda really needs is for Ross Brawn to work his magic for next years F1 program. Race wins would be good but to be honest, BMW style performance would be good enough to help the launch of the new car ... just so long as they DONT call it the NSX ...

Heres a couple of artists impressions from this weeks AutoExpress

regards, Paul

[TheSebringOne]

Sorry slightly off the subject, what is it with these two twinned zorst tips which are on top of one another as in the new hot Lexus & new Fezza California!!

[Lankstarr]

If you go Gallardo everyone will think you're a gangster rapper


So wot tha dilley is wrong wid a Gallardo yo!?

[dan the man]

yea fool !!!!!!!!!!!

[Monaco92]

I've heard NSX mentioned in several rap songs.

[Boomin33]

I've heard NSX mentioned in several rap songs.

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o136/boomin33/AK47-1.jpg

[AR]

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o136/boomin33/AK47-1.jpg

I dont get it?

[simonprelude]

AK47 ;)

Or wait until 2047 and you can have AK47 NSX ;)

What will happen in 2051 to the number plates as '51' has already been issued ??


I dont get it?

[NSX 2000]

AK47 ;)

Or wait until 2047 and you can have AK47 NSX ;)

What will happen in 2051 to the number plates as '51' has already been issued ??

Because this goverment is so forward thinking it said "that the new 50 and 00 number plate system would last for 48 years then we will revisit the number plate numbering system"

Some how I think I civil servant must of thought of this idea!

[Boomin33]

[quote=simonprelude;46001]AK47 ;)

Or wait until 2047 and you can have AK47 NSX ;)
quote]



I like your line of thinking. found a site I could buy the AK04 SEV for £150.00 but the wife would just shake her head in embarrassment... so will let that one go.

Or.. could buy it and put it on Ebay for £750 and sell to a real Gangster. The Hip-Hop, Cash Flush Drug dealing types, eh.


--

[AR]

Sure way to get Tasered!!!

[TheSebringOne]

Regarding Paul's comments about another 48 years out of the current reg system, lets hope that petrol is still affordable or still available? Maybe NSX's great grandson will be hybrid with less than 120 Co2! but with decent performance ! :D

[AR]

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/GeneralFuture/articleId=127446?tid=edmunds.il.home.photopanel..1

[Boomin33]

Regarding Paul's comments about another 48 years out of the current reg system, lets hope that petrol is still affordable or still available? Maybe NSX's great grandson will be hybrid with less than 120 Co2! but with decent performance ! :D


I imagine in our lifetime we will see Battery cell (or the like) conversions to cars like the NSX. Especially if they make more leaps and bounds in the technology

As within 30 years Petrol should become extraordinarily expensive and out of financial reach? At least for 85%+ of the population.

Is the NSX light enough to go like stink? or still way too heavy to fathom?