Wide Bodied NSX with later spec headlights **56k Beware**

[nsx_Robert]

a bit over top , but some people might like it
would have to plan your routes to avoid speed bumps :)

http://topspec-imports.com/images/Honda/Black-Nsx-WideBody-1991/1.jpg
http://topspec-imports.com/images/Honda/Black-Nsx-WideBody-1991/2.jpg

http://topspec-imports.com/images/Honda/Black-Nsx-WideBody-1991/20.jpg

[Dave J]

Bit ott but i love it :D
Dave.

[amo]

mmmmmmmmmm now thats nice
thx amo

[c11nky]

Have the Taste Police seen this yet??

[NSXGB]

I must admit I quite like it. The little blue rimmed lights in the front bumper really let it down though...and the really badly fitted bonnet...

[Senninha]

...and the really badly fitted bonnet...

I'm pleased you pointed that out as I was struggling to see which panel it was that spoiling the dream machine ......... still, the upside is that there are enough panels around to undo this mess...

[eclipse1501]

Sorry not interested, the engine bays my big problem, the dip stick is red.

[NSX 2000]

Is this car for sale then?

[Senninha]

Sorry not interested, the engine bays my big problem, the dip stick is red.

Now thats just being picky :laugh:

[Kaz-kzukNA1]

Only technical comment from me...

JDM spec.
Pre-DBW (~Feb/95 JDM) model unless it was converted or Type-R. Not possible as we could see the engine room fan which was not available on Type-R.
3.0L engine unless it was modified.
Extra earthing cable on NA engine and aluminum body... No idea why... dress up...
Very old spec header tank cap.
And the photo was taken in Japan unless modified.

Better stop now as this is not technical section and just to enjoy the photo...

Kaz

[Papalazarou]

I see it has the Gruppe M head ache filter.

Cheers,

James.

[AR]

Nice JDM look, panel fit could be better, but even more expensive panels sometimes are off. I am thinking that the roads in Japan must be great as otherwise their cars could not be that low!

[markc]

Truly hideous, what a waste of an NSX :(

[AR]

Truly hideous, what a waste of an NSX :(

A bit OTT for someone of your standing, is this not inflammatory?

[markc]

A bit OTT for someone of your standing, is this not inflammatory?

Sorry I've been on holiday for a week and have obviously come back feeling feisty :)

That was just my initial reaction. IMHO it looks awful, particularly the rear wings, and it appears very shoddily put together.

Each to their own but I'd do worry that a lot of older and/or damaged NSX's i.e. cheaper ones, are going to receive this treatment rather than being restored or repaired properly.

I suspect it's a temporary trend which will last until the NSX passes from old'ish former great, where they're relatively cheap and change hands quite often, into full classic status where originality is more highly prized.

Just my opinions of course.

Mark

[c11nky]

Completely agree.

Honda spend millions designing and building a car and some spotty kid with a spanner, a tin of blue paint and a few hundred quids worth of Airfix kit thinks he can do a better job.

The only time I've seen this approach working is on a Citroen Saxo.
But even then you need to spend £350 on the Airfix kit to match Citroen's R&D budget for the Saxo.

[AR]

I suspect it's a temporary trend which will last until the NSX passes from old'ish former great, where they're relatively cheap and change hands quite often, into full classic status where originality is more highly prized.

Just my opinions of course.

Mark

Mark,

Bodykits for the NSX have being going for years, almost since it's inception.

It is not a trend that will pass away is just a JDM look thing.

Look at all the excitement the Spoon RGT caused.

Cheers,

AR

[AR]

Completely agree.

Honda spend millions designing and building a car and some spotty kid with a spanner, a tin of blue paint and a few hundred quids worth of Airfix kit thinks he can do a better job.

The only time I've seen this approach working is on a Citroen Saxo.
But even then you need to spend £350 on the Airfix kit to match Citroen's R&D budget for the Saxo.

Why don't you have a look how much any of them panels are before you start misquoting numbers.

There are some panels that don't match 100% but from that to spew so much hate is alsmost unheard of!

[JQD84983]

Why don't you have a look how much any of them panels are before you start misquoting numbers.

There are some panels that don't match 100% but from that to spew so much hate is alsmost unheard of!

Clearly this approach polarises opinion.

Personally I like the engine bay work but the body kit is not my cup of tea. Have to admire the work put into it even if the result may not be to my taste.

[c11nky]

Why don't you have a look how much any of them panels are before you start misquoting numbers.

There are some panels that don't match 100% but from that to spew so much hate is almost unheard of!

Sorry, I think that came across a bit strong. It was meant to be a wee jestful comparison with all the kids in electric blue/green Saxos with drainpipes up the back end and collapsed suspension.

Forgetting the panel gaps, it's like painting a moustache and glasses on the Mona Lisa.
Can I say that without coming across hate-filled?
If not, I'm happy to retract it. :)

[NSX 2000]

This is as far as I'm concerned a very interesting debate and I hope we can carry on debating this with out resulting to hand bags at 10 paces :D

The reason one person likes a car is not necessarily the same reason why some one else likes the same car, and this is why I like Top Gear, there are 3 completely different men OTT Clarkson, OCD May and the house wives favourite Hammond. But all love cars with a true British passion.

I personally think their is a little snobbery when it comes to body kits and modding cars, take this Merc as an example http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyId=19979
is this OMG good or OMG bad?

Paul :)

[markc]

Completely agree.

Honda spend millions designing and building a car and some spotty kid with a spanner, a tin of blue paint and a few hundred quids worth of Airfix kit thinks he can do a better job.

The only time I've seen this approach working is on a Citroen Saxo.
But even then you need to spend £350 on the Airfix kit to match Citroen's R&D budget for the Saxo.

A little strong c11nky but the point is made :) I'm not keen on comparing our engineering masterpieces with the Saxo scene but I'd make a parallel with what happened and continues to happen to Porsche Carrera/911.

In the 1990's, some 70's and early 80's Carreras were getting old, tired, tatty and/or damaged. Many, even 2.7RS's (shock horror), were repaired with fiberglass panels to ape the successful race cars. Some were done very well, some less so. Some of these cars survive today but unless they've been very well looked after (rare) OR become dedicated track cars they're worth much less than original spec cars. Now that these earlier cars are worth a lot more money they're being restored and returned to original spec.


Mark,

Bodykits for the NSX have being going for years, almost since it's inception.

It is not a trend that will pass away is just a JDM look thing.

Look at all the excitement the Spoon RGT caused.

Cheers,

AR

I agree it's a JDM thing but, like the Porsche scene described above was primarily a German (DDM?) thing, I don't think it translates well outside of Japan. As you know I wasn't a fan of the Spoon car but at least it was well finished.

I can see a few of these heavily modded cars surviving but I suspect a lot of them will fall from favour and then fail to find owners that will look after them. At that point they'll either be rescued and returned to original (if prices for good original spec cars hold up) or become spares donors for the rest of us.

Cheers

Mark

[AR]

Mark,

In the case of an NSX-R or a Type S like yours, this will hold true. For a normal NSX with average miles, there are too many of them to be that rare.

Just my .2 and all.

Cheers,

Ary

[Senninha]

This is as far as I'm concerned a very interesting debate and I hope we can carry on debating this with out resulting to hand bags at 10 paces :D

Paul :)

As the owner of a mildly modded NSX I'm interested in this debate and hope it can continue as proposed above.



Quote MarkC Some were done very well, some less so. Some of these cars survive today but unless they've been very well looked after (rare) OR become dedicated track cars they're worth much less than original spec cars.


I bought my NSX with no plan or intention to do anything other than enjoy what Honda had produced. With ownership came the desire to refresh and where appropriate update some of the NSX. However, I have tried to remain faithful to Honda so that changes now deliver a kind of hybrid NA2 with some styling influence from the 02+ cars.

I'm on record as saying I'm not keen on big kits and spoilers. However, I've also said on several occasions that because it is done well, and maintained well, Amo's car is an example of how you can do this type of mod properly.

What I do dislike is what started this thread. IMO, this car has not been modified with any thought about fit and finish or quality. I'd also guess that the end result happened by chance rather than through careful planning. And it is this poor overall finish that suggest to me that rather than being done with an end focus, it has been done to 'hide' a damaged car underneath (just my assumption).

Paul, as for the C63 ... Yes please but with a tweaked 280CDI power train!

Regards, Paul

[markc]

AR, "rare" is kind of hard to quantify but with only 18,000 cars built in total and perhaps 700-800 in Europe no NSX is common. By comparison Porsche built about 60,000 964 Carreras between '89 and '93 and they're getting collectible now.

In another 10 years the NSX should have moved into full classic territory with hardly any used a daily drivers. They SHOULD be properly collectable (but not museum pieces) by then and prices for a good car will reflect that. While nothing directly comparable springs to mind the Audi quattro, Lancia Delta Integrale, Sierra/Escort Cosworth etc all went through a patch where they were quite cheap but prices have since recovered so that good cars change hands for descent money.

Paul, IMO your car is a very different kettle of fish. I would really count yours as modded, certainly not in the same way as the one featured in this thread. The parts you've selected are mainly OEM and you haven't done anything drastic to the body. As you've said it's all easily reversible.

I myself an not averse to an upgrade/update or two and have seriously considered fitting the +02 rear bumper and lights as you have.

I also quite like that Merc but there no way I couldn't accept diesel power in place of a stonkin' 6.3Ltr V8 :)

Cheers

Mark

[JQD84983]

http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyId=19979
Paul :)[/QUOTE]

Personally I like this. Butch, reasonably subtle. It's to my taste.

Amo will probably disagree and its good to have diversity. Had to admire his creation at Japfest but was more than happy to drive home in my own.

Its good to have diversity, especially in this forum.

[markc]

Its good to have diversity, especially in this forum.

There are 11 of those buggers and only a couple of them look old enough to drive. I think c11nky's Saxo's with drainpipe exhausts would appeal more to their age group :)

Mark

[NSX 2000]

Sorry but I don't like the Merc:( but I do pick up my 440BHP V8 muscle car tomorrow:drool::yes::drool:

[mutley]

Back to the modded NSX theme, I'm with Paul on that one (Senninha).

The car at teh start of this thread I would class as modded Badly, I wouldn't say necessarily to hide damage, but certainly a project that was done in a hurry.

I too am going for the subtle update idea, but keeping the car looking as it should.

Each to their own really.

Jim

[AR]

BTW That car belongs or used to belong to Tomoyann from Top End.

[nsx_Robert]

JDM bodykits have always been a bit OTT IMO but some like it and some dont i guess without the choice everything would be the same,
Yes i do believe its for sale think its currently in j-land awaiting shipping
http://topspec-imports.com/stock%20pages/Honda/NSX/1991-Black-Honda-NSX-Wide-Body.html