Pictures of a NEW NSX-RACE-CAR

[278kmh]

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[278kmh]

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[278kmh]

http://jonsibal.com/blog/wp-content/gallery/hsv-010_gt/hsv-010_gt_sd_7.jpg

[278kmh]

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[Dragonlady]

Wow - very nice, love to hear what it sounds like with that exhaust! Any more info about it, specs etc...

[278kmh]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyVMGCxBi8s&fmt=22

[278kmh]

the engine is a 3,4 liter from the formula-nippon. its only a racecar , no streetversion planed.

[Senninha]

I say watch this space ref a potential road car.

If you look close there are several 'NSX' styling areas on this Next Sporting eXperince from Honda. The relationship around the front bumper and lights, the deep screen, the full width rear lights. It also has the front wings flowing over the dead centre line of the front wheels (notably copied by the the Maclaren F1 and new MP4).

So Honda gets special allowance to race. It already looks to be on the pace for 2010. It starts winning and the officals say ... Honda, you now need to homolagate the new car to continue. By this time the would be purchasers are chomping at the bit. The car has credibility, and for road users, SH-AWD to help control 400+ hp .... result, a very special front/mid engined car with great poise, a great noise and lots of eager buyers!

Clever move Honda

Anyone want a 98 3.2 targa?

regards, Paul

[davidaccord]

Unfortunately I don't think it will happen until honda/acura have sorted themselves out. But I hope I am wrong.

The pressure for Honda to plot the right way forward would not seem to include what the president refers to as a Halo model.

I could have done with SH-AWD today. My accord got stuck behind some twunt in a Beamer who had to be towed up a hill..... By a Honda CRV of course. I made it up by using an interesting sawing method.

It was a few weeks back that I realised that the NSX is now truly beyond my reach so I really envy all of you guys who have had more than just daydreams!

[simonprelude]

If this car is succesful then I'm sure the JGTC governing bodies (FIA??) will then insist on homolgation, whether this will be 5 specials as the NSX-GT or a full production run then who knows.

[markc]

I can't say I like it. Just another generic front engined racecar much like the Aston's, Corvette, Nissan 350Z & GTR, Lexus SC430 etc and even Ginetta G50 :(


Anyone want a 98 3.2 targa?

Well I certainly won't be in the queue for this new thing if it ever turns into a road version so I'll take the old girl off your hands Paul. I think between yours and mine I'd have ALL the NSX bases covered :)

Cheers

Mark

[Senninha]

Well I certainly won't be in the queue for this new thing if it ever turns into a road version so I'll take the old girl off your hands Paul. I think between yours and mine I'd have ALL the NSX bases covered :)

Cheers

Mark

Would you prefer her wrapped or eau natural Magnum Sir?

I'm currently thinking about the work involved to strip her down to near stock ... unless you're looking for all the toys left in situ .....

Regards, Paul

[AR]

Would you prefer her wrapped or eau natural Magnum Sir?

I'm currently thinking about the work involved to strip her down to near stock ... unless you're looking for all the toys left in situ .....

Regards, Paul

PS Remember dibs on the 02 plus LOL!

Regrading the HSV-10 as nice as it would be to have one, who knows what the road car would be.

If they have any brains left it will be sub 50K 400 BHP and sub 4 seconds to 60!

[NSX 2000]

If they have any brains left it will be sub 50K 400 BHP and sub 4 seconds to 60!

Your not after much then :D

On a serious note can you list all the brand new cars which do meet the above criteria.

[markc]

If they have any brains left it will be sub 50K 400 BHP and sub 4 seconds to 60!

Which IMHO would take it further away from the NSX concept.

The NSX was expensive due it's construction and quality. It was fast but not faster than it's competition and the straight line figures were secondary to it's ability to cover the ground, real roads, quickly.

Circa 400Hp is about right but it should feature leading edge construction techniques and materials which would push the price up. £80K sounds about to me... and engine HAS to be behind the driver or it's simply no successor, just another front engined GT.

Cheers

Mark

[Senninha]

PS Remember dibs on the 02 plus LOL!

Regrading the HSV-10 as nice as it would be to have one, who knows what the road car would be.

If they have any brains left it will be sub 50K 400 BHP and sub 4 seconds to 60!

I'd hopefully hold on to them for use on another NSX

I think realistically they should be aiming for R8 type money with a good spec / performance. If they hit your ask then they couldn't supply enough of them!

[AR]

Your not after much then :D

On a serious note can you list all the brand new cars which do meet the above criteria.

Corvette comes to mind!

If it is going to be made, then the US will be the target market!

Choose your poison:

http://www.chevrolet.com/corvette/

Hard to argue the case!

[markc]

Corvette comes to mind!

If it is going to be made, then the US will be the target market!

Hard to argue the case!

I'll have a go... ;)

Given that we live this side of the pond the 'vette just doesn't work on European roads. It's too big (actually too wide) and too stiff. I like the gen 6 'vette but it's a broadsword against the NSX scalpel.

I guess if the project were driven by Honda US rather than Japan they might choose to go toe to toe (price & grunt) with Corvette? However, for me this is too too far away from the original NSX concept to still be connected to it. Call it a new Honda/Acura flagship if you like, just don't call it the new NSX.

Cheers

Mark

[AR]

I'll have a go... ;)

Given that we live this side of the pond the 'vette just doesn't work on European roads. It's too big (actually too wide) and too stiff. I like the gen 6 'vette but it's a broadsword against the NSX scalpel.

I guess if the project were driven by Honda US rather than Japan they might choose to go toe to toe (price & grunt) with Corvette? However, for me this is too too far away from the original NSX concept to still be connected to it. Call it a new Honda/Acura flagship if you like, just don't call it the new NSX.

Cheers

Mark

Think of it in Jaguar E type evolution thing, or more so of a VW Beetle.

[NSX 2000]

Corvette comes to mind!

If it is going to be made, then the US will be the target market!

Choose your poison:

http://www.chevrolet.com/corvette/

Hard to argue the case!

The standard Corvette Coupe and Grand Sport Coupe may come in at under £50K but it will all depend on the exchange rate and how much tax plus duty you have to pay when you import it, plus they take 4.1 secs to 0-60. So to meet your original criteria you need to splash out $74K (plus Vat plus duty) on the Z06.

I like the Corvette but what brand new car can I buy this weekend from a dealer in the UK with a warrnty etc that meets your original criteria.

The only car I can think of which may of meet your criteria would of been one of the TVR's but not sure even the ones that could do a sub 4 sec 0 to 60 cost under £50k.

[markc]

I like the Corvette but what brand new car can I buy this weekend from a dealer in the UK with a warrnty etc that meets your original criteria.

The only car I can think of which may of meet your criteria would of been one of the TVR's but not sure even the ones that could do a sub 4 sec 0 to 60 cost under £50k.

Mitsubishi Evo X FQ400 - 400hp, 0-60 3.8secs, £49,999

... not really a supercar though and certainly don't hanker after one of them.

Cheers

Mark

[Silver Surfer]

From Evo Mag:
Engine: In-line 6-cyl, 3996cc, 24v Max power: 406bhp @ 7500rpm Max torque: 349lb ft @ 5000rpm 0 - 60mph: 3.7sec (claimed) Top speed: 185mph+ (claimed) Price: £49,995 On Sale: Now (2006)

TVR Sagaris!!

SS

[AR]

You can get the Corvette from UK dealers, but even if you wanted an Evo it might not be in your spec.

IMHO Nothing can beat a Corvette for value for money, they are well built nowadays and look and go like proper supercars.

[NSX 2000]

Back on topic

http://world.honda.com/news/2010/c100118HSV-010-GT/index.html

[lotusolly]

Spotted an unusal spec and wondered if it was a typo or is it practice in the racing world?

Front wheel dia 18", rear 17"!

Olly

[TheSebringOne]

Interesting stats just released by PH!

http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyId=21372

[forumadmin]

I read how many people are saying 'make this car', 'it looks awesome'.

What these people fail to realise is that a road going version of this car will look nothing like this one.

Do the Super-GT NSXs look anything like a road going one? No. They don't. They are wider, have bigger wheels and look mean. Also this racing car is probably not even constructed anything like a road going one would be.

Why is it called the HSV-10 when it has eight cylinders?

[NoelWatson]

Displacement (cm3): 3,397
Bore x stroke (mm): 93.0 x 62.5
Maximum output: 500hp or more
Maximum torque(N-m): 392 or more (290lb ft)

I wonder what redline is - >10000rpm?

[NSX 2000]

This may answer/confirm some of your questions Kevin

http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsArticle/AllCars/246163/

[forumadmin]

Yes but we all know the axed 'NSX' looked like this.

The race car is going to be much wider and have bigger wheels. So if Honda show off the race car, then come out with the road version, isn't it going to be a bit of a let down?

[Senninha]

I appreciate both sides of the debate but I love he way the road NSX looks compared to the ex-race cars. I have no doubt I would also like the road car if its anything like the camouflaged versions we've seen so far.

[AR]

Bring out a Honda ZO6 and it will sale like...

[Senninha]

I still think the race car is a great marketing gamble. If this car is quick and wins races, it will develop a following. Most will expect a road version to be softer etc, but isnt racing results what sells top end sports cars anyway?

V8, V10, V6turbos ... who cares. I dont and if it has some of the engine performance (power & green credentials aka MP4) that surely Honda are capable of building given most credit them as one of the greatest engine builders, then a 2+2 will suit me fine :)

regards, Paul

[Rob_Fenn]

Are the Super GT races televised outside of Japan? I understand they were going to, or did a round in the US, but aren't any longer?

The race on sunday and sell on monday line is well versed, but if no-one knows about it...

[markc]

Yes but we all know the axed 'NSX' looked like this.

The race car is going to be much wider and have bigger wheels. So if Honda show off the race car, then come out with the road version, isn't it going to be a bit of a let down?

Good point Kevin, the race car looks nothing like the camouflaged buffalo that was pounding around the Nurburgring.


I still think the race car is a great marketing gamble. If this car is quick and wins races, it will develop a following. Most will expect a road version to be softer etc, but isnt racing results what sells top end sports cars anyway?

That used to be the idea but it seems less so these days. Why on earth Citroen are in WRC is a mystery to me. Also it (racing success) has never worried Lamborghini.


V8, V10, V6turbos ... who cares. I dont and if it has some of the engine performance (power & green credentials aka MP4) that surely Honda are capable of building given most credit them as one of the greatest engine builders, then a 2+2 will suit me fine :)

regards, Paul

I suspect Honda will go down the hybrid route should they re-enter the sports car market. With Le Mans (the ACO governing body) looking to encourage a hybrid class i.e create rules to allow them to win, in the next couple of years, this could be the showcase for Honda. Porsche look to be going this way as well.


Are the Super GT races televised outside of Japan? I understand they were going to, or did a round in the US, but aren't any longer?

The race on sunday and sell on monday line is well versed, but if no-one knows about it...

The races were shown on either MotorsTV or Eurosport last year. They're more like endurance racing with several classes of car so the actual "racing" is rarely close but it's still good to watch for motor sport fans.

Cheers

Mark

[JQD84983]

I still think the race car is a great marketing gamble. If this car is quick and wins races, it will develop a following.
regards, Paul

I think that in the Domestic market it is important to have a good showing just for corporate pride.

Banning the NSX after being successful must have hurt Honda a bit and this is the result.