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nobby
16-05-2011, 07:51 PM
new up on ph

http://pistonheads.com/sales/2816750.htm

from the pics looks a very nice car, however the owner has not provided too much history on the car regarding its servicing but states 30k miles.

WhyOne?
16-05-2011, 08:15 PM
I was just about to start a thread about this car - you beat me too it!

It looks an absolute cracker to me and I would be astounded if it is still for sale this time next week.

nobby
16-05-2011, 08:19 PM
LOL! :)

I would be surprised too if it lingered for a bit on there ... especially with the summer coming in

WhyOne?
16-05-2011, 08:27 PM
You are right that the write up lacks detail, but it covers all the main points - owners, FHSH, MOT, mileage. I get a good feeling about the car.

If I was nit-picking - there is no mention of the after-market exhaust.

Rob_Fenn
16-05-2011, 08:58 PM
Looks fantastic. Great car if someone wants a 'classic' looking NSX with the updated drivetrain.

Justin
16-05-2011, 09:36 PM
Looks fantastic. Great car if someone wants a 'classic' looking NSX with the updated drivetrain.

Absolutely - the rarest of em all ;)


You are right that the write up lacks detail, but it covers all the main points - owners, FHSH, MOT, mileage. I get a good feeling about the car.
If I was nit-picking - there is no mention of the after-market exhaust.

Bit of bias towards the popper NA2s? :D

Agree it looks the biz from where I'm sitting!

NZNick
16-05-2011, 09:41 PM
Is there any difference in spec. between this one and the Imola Orange Pearl example on PH?
They are less than 24 months apart in terms of date of first registration - I suppose they could have been built only a few months apart?? The production and sales figures in 2000 & 2001 were miniscule - ensuring great future exclusivity.

8 grand is a big difference for just 7k less miles....

Senninha
16-05-2011, 09:57 PM
....If I was nit-picking - there is no mention of the after-market exhaust....

Is it an exhaust? Looks more like a change of tips which could explain why they dont appear aligned. Either way this looks to be a cracking opportunity for somebody.

regards, Paul

NSX 2000
16-05-2011, 10:13 PM
Always wondered what W1 looked like.

WhyOne?
17-05-2011, 08:17 AM
Absolutely - the rarest of em all ;)



Bit of bias towards the popper NA2s? :D



Biased???

Me??!!?!

Of course I am!!!!

WhyOne?
17-05-2011, 08:32 AM
Absolutely - the rarest of em all ;)



Bit of bias towards the popper NA2s? :D



Biased???

Me??!!?!

Of course I am!!!!

Marky
17-05-2011, 08:58 AM
agree looks like a nice clean example, prices have certainly gone up a lot over the last 24 months as I sold a 2003 NA2 car for £32000 around 2 yrs ago and I remember a red 2003 or 2004 NA2 sold for £36000 last year. Rarity is key I guess.

Rob_Fenn
18-05-2011, 08:43 AM
Is there any difference in spec. between this one and the Imola Orange Pearl example on PH?
They are less than 24 months apart in terms of date of first registration - I suppose they could have been built only a few months apart?? The production and sales figures in 2000 & 2001 were miniscule - ensuring great future exclusivity.

8 grand is a big difference for just 7k less miles....

I thought that too. I just think the market is so small that just one car can change what the going rate is.... at the moment it is a great time to be a seller, for sure!

Although it is disappointing for me, someone who would love a late car, i have to say it is nice to see the NSX getting the respect it deserves. When you consider an immaculate Porsche 964 RS, a pretty crap car that is not rare at all, can sell for as much as £100k, then a £30k looks like a bargain.

I once thought, because of the badge, the NSX might never become a true classic. Now i'm much more confident that it will go down in history as the game-changer it was. It will be fascinating to see how it compares in 20-30 years alongside cars like the Ferrari 355 (last of the old school, pretty Ferraris?) and the Porsche 993 (last air cooled 911).

AR
18-05-2011, 10:16 AM
I think the main thing is that there is not a new sports car from Honda. After the next best thing from Honda comes out, if it evers the NSX will get the 993/996 hit and will probably just like the 993 bounce back.

Is summer so that helps prices.

New and prospective owner look after the reliability. ( Or perhaps they have not read the faults thread here. :) )

markc
19-05-2011, 11:21 AM
... When you consider an immaculate Porsche 964 RS, a pretty crap car that is not rare at all, can sell for as much as £100k, then a £30k looks like a bargain.

"Apples with apples" comes to mind. I think you should really compare the 964RS with the NSX-R (NA1). Both are similarly "crap" i.e. very, possibly too hard for serious use on the public road but similarly brilliant when the road surface/conditions are just right.

Porsche made just over 2000 964RS's compared to Honda's circa 450 NA1 NSX-R's. Compare this to total 964 production of 62,000 and total NSX production of 18,000 and the ratio's are kind of similar. Certainly NSX-R's are attracting equally strong money in Japan already.

Same story for 993RS (total 68,000 - 1,015 RS's) and 996GT3 (total 175,000 - <4,000 GT3's) which stradled the NSX-R Gen 1 and 2 production.


... It will be fascinating to see how it compares in 20-30 years alongside cars like the Ferrari 355 (last of the old school, pretty Ferraris?) and the Porsche 993 (last air cooled 911).

Production numbers for the NSX and F355 are similar so they will always be rarer than the Porsche. The huge car club and specialist networks that support the Ferrari and Porsche brands will ensure that there's a strong market for them though which is something the NSX lacks. It's just us chaps :D


I think the main thing is that there is not a new sports car from Honda. After the next best thing from Honda comes out, if it evers the NSX will get the 993/996 hit and will probably just like the 993 bounce back.

IMHO enough time has now elapsed between the demise of the NSX (2005) and any replacement, percieved or otherwise, that values will be unaffected by a new sports Honda.

Cheers

Mark

Nick Graves
19-05-2011, 03:20 PM
Also, it seems likely that the NSX replacement will be a very different kind of car; V6 & twin-motor/epicyclic hybrid is a common rumour.

The NA could well be the first and the last of its type.

AR
19-05-2011, 03:49 PM
The huge car club and specialist networks that support the Ferrari and Porsche brands will ensure that there's a strong market for them though which is something the NSX lacks.

It's just us chaps :D

Good luck to the NSX

nobby
19-05-2011, 08:29 PM
back to original post :)

the car is now sold on PH ... no surprise there as car looked good

hopefully the new owner makes themselves known to the forum

TheSebringOne
19-05-2011, 11:17 PM
Sorry a bit late, but it looks like a very nice clean example and hopefully the new owner might
say hello?

WhyOne?
20-05-2011, 09:32 AM
Another example demonstrating that good cars, sensibly priced, will sell quickly.

markc
20-05-2011, 09:52 AM
Good luck to the NSX

Ha ha, many a famous victory has been won against the odds. Passion and commitment often overcome a "superior" but complacent adversary... "We few, we happy few, we Band of Brothers" :bigsmile:


Sorry a bit late, but it looks like a very nice clean example and hopefully the new owner might say hello?

Indeed, he/she will be most welcome to our band of brothers... "Once more unto the breach my friends... for Harry, England and St George" :laugh:

Cheers

Mark (or is it Henry V today) :)

AR
21-05-2011, 04:17 PM
Ha ha, many a famous victory has been won against the odds. Passion and commitment often overcome a "superior" but complacent adversary... "We few, we happy few, we Band of Brothers":)

Is more like fraticide if you introduce a few deals in the mix.

sigilobaphomet
22-05-2011, 04:30 PM
Hi, just joined, been looking for an NSX for 5 months now, I missed out on this formula red 2000 by a day as it sold the same day to the first enquirer, for the asking price - I'm now looking at the imola orange pearl 2001 - any advice? anyone own an NSX in this colour?

nobby
22-05-2011, 08:58 PM
hi mate and welcome!

markc, justin etc all own IOP coloured NSX's!

with regards to advice, read through Kaz's Health Service and Sudesh's Refresh threads on Technical. also check out prosepctive members section for stickies on what too look for

usual stuff is find out history for sure - timing belts etc, its all listed on this site

just take it for a good drive mate ... see what you think

good luck! :)


Hi, just joined, been looking for an NSX for 5 months now, I missed out on this formula red 2000 by a day as it sold the same day to the first enquirer, for the asking price - I'm now looking at the imola orange pearl 2001 - any advice? anyone own an NSX in this colour?

Senninha
23-05-2011, 08:10 AM
hi mate and welcome!

markc, justin etc all own IOP coloured NSX's!

good luck! :)

Additional IOP onwers are Monaco92, Boomin33 and Candyman

A late 3.2 pop up is a very rare opportunity so I hope its a good one for you

regards, Paul

sigilobaphomet
23-05-2011, 09:48 AM
Thanks guys, I will let you know how it goes this week, currently driving a R35 GTR so hoping the power differential isn't too much but looking forward to the more involved driving experience

AR
23-05-2011, 10:14 AM
Thanks guys, I will let you know how it goes this week, currently driving a R35 GTR so hoping the power differential isn't too much but looking forward to the more involved driving experience

Mate the power differential even with a merc diesel is HUGE. The NSX is a fantastic car, but take into consideration that they are for all account, period cars, like an E30 M3 etc.

markc
23-05-2011, 08:08 PM
I'm now looking at the imola orange pearl 2001 - any advice? anyone own an NSX in this colour?

It looks like a really nice car and, as outed by nobby and Senninha, I'm an IOP owner so am biased. I'll admit it's a marmite colour but personally I love it. IMO It looks its absolute best in bright sunlight where the colour moves between light Gold and deepish Orange depending on the angle the sun hits the various panels :cool:


Mate the power differential even with a merc diesel is HUGE. The NSX is a fantastic car, but take into consideration that they are for all account, period cars, like an E30 M3 etc.

Agreed there is a massive differance in grunt between an NSX and an R35 GTR :eek: An NSX will show a clean pair of heels to any standard Merc weasel or indeed anything but a Touring car version of an E30 M3. Think E36 or E46 M3 for comparable straightline performance :thumbsup:

Cheers

Mark

AR
23-05-2011, 08:45 PM
It looks like a really nice car and, as outed by nobby and Senninha, I'm an IOP owner so am biased. I'll admit it's a marmite colour but personally I love it. IMO It looks its absolute best in bright sunlight where the colour moves between light Gold and deepish Orange depending on the angle the sun hits the various panels :cool:



Agreed there is a massive differance in grunt between an NSX and an R35 GTR :eek: An NSX will show a clean pair of heels to any standard Merc weasel or indeed anything but a Touring car version of an E30 M3. Think E36 or E46 M3 for comparable straightline performance :thumbsup:

Cheers

Mark

Mark I disagree, specially as the Merc driver will just put his/her foot down and the ( stock ) NSX owner will be trying to get the perfect shift, let's not even talk about tuned BMW 335D!

Buy an NSX because, is pretty or because of the engineering, not for speed. That is unless you go FI or Hi Comp.

Just my experience.

sigilobaphomet
23-05-2011, 08:57 PM
The R35 is nuts but you don't get to use the power - its so quick to 100 never mind 60 that unless on a wide track or you don't mind risking writing off £60k you cant use it on the roads, its also a pig at crawling speed - I probably have more fun in my wife's 2009 Civic Type R GT, definitely use it more.

I do intend to use the NSX daily, not keep it wrapped up in a garage for weekend summer drives - one of my main reasons for choosing this 'classic' over other c£40k motors.

Seeing the colour in the flesh will be the decider.

markc
23-05-2011, 09:34 PM
Mark I disagree, specially as the Merc driver will just put his/her foot down and the ( stock ) NSX owner will be trying to get the perfect shift, let's not even talk about tuned BMW 335D!

The weasel, any weasel, will flatter to deceive by providing a short lived wodge of acceleration before it slams into its low rev limit, usually at <5K rpm, and require another gear. Difficult to meter out smoothly and pretty unexciting, even when combined with serious pace, in my book. I guess when combined with an auto transmission it kind of suits a luxobarge like a Merc E Class or a big Jag but it's not really a relevent comparison to an NSX or indeed an M3. Surely any comparison of standard and modified cars is not representative and unfair on the standard car, after all you can always modify the standard car to redress the balance :dunno: E92 M3 or "Chipped-a-bit" 335d... no contest for me :bigsmile:


Buy an NSX because, is pretty or because of the engineering, not for speed. That is unless you go FI or Hi Comp.

Just my experience.

The NSX is a modern classic and still plently fast enough for most of us but jumping straight from behind the wheel the latest GTR it'll feel pretty pedestrian. I was lucky enough to try one of the latest 997GT2's last year courtesy of Porsche Guilford and can confirm performace on this level is almost mindblowing :eek:

Just my experience ;)

Mark

AR
23-05-2011, 10:31 PM
Modern classic, is that an oxymoron?

markc
25-05-2011, 04:39 PM
Modern classic, is that an oxymoron?

Not at all... unlike "Sports Diesel" or "Luxury Off-Roader" :laugh:

AR
25-05-2011, 06:35 PM
Not at all... unlike "Sports Diesel" or "Luxury Off-Roader" :laugh:
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