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sorepaws
28-11-2011, 08:26 PM
from Autocar

http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsArticle/AllCars/260241/
TheSebringOne
28-11-2011, 11:18 PM
Funny, how the one on Fifth Gear was apparently valued at £150K! Abeit is the prototype.
I hope the finished article doesn't understeer like that one.
NSX 2000
29-11-2011, 11:37 AM
Story also to found here,

http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyId=24779

but with a much better main photo :D
NSX 2000
29-11-2011, 11:45 AM
Funny, how the one on Fifth Gear was apparently valued at £150K! Abeit is the prototype.
I hope the finished article doesn't understeer like that one.

Hi James, hope the north is treating you well.

The car Fifth Gear tested (and was on our stand at this years Silverstone Classic) I was also lucky enough to take around the Rockingham circuit, and yes the car is valued at £150K. This is due to the high cost of the one off items fitted to the car and the cost of all the R&D and it being put together by hand, but now they are going to mass produce it the bean counters have worked out that they can sell it for £23k, but I reckon that the production car will not have any of the CF parts that the test mule has fitted to it.

Paul
PeteM
29-11-2011, 01:03 PM
Funny, how the one on Fifth Gear was apparently valued at £150K! Abeit is the prototype.
I hope the finished article doesn't understeer like that one.

Any front wheel drive car on a damp greasy race track will understeer if you provoke it, my mk2 Golf track car has a limited slip diff and in the wet round a track it will quite happily understeer on demand. Now in the dry it's a completeley different story!

Cheers Pete.
Nick Graves
29-11-2011, 08:04 PM
Another reason Honda should never have abandoned 4WS; you can get some really great on-the-limit drifts if you set the 'Lude up right.

And it's quite compliant on the bumps too, so doesn't get bounced off.

Bit like a more forgiving NSX with the engine in the wrong place.
TheSebringOne
29-11-2011, 11:37 PM
I'm fine thanks Paul, just a few degrees colder up North = tougher skin! CF is still too expensive!

Yes, I love the 4WS as in addition to on the limit drifting, great for parking the large rear hump into some tight spaces too!

I think some manufacturers still use it on the odd model, the sport coupe Laguna springs to mind.
Nick Graves
30-11-2011, 05:39 PM
Indeed; there is a BMW 5er with it. And an Infiniti G37S.

But they don't do Honda's anti-understeer/cherry-picker parking trick.