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dickyf
27-02-2012, 12:31 PM
does anyone have any info on the red targa on autotrader.? interested in the history as to why its on the V car register.
thanks in anticipation

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/used-cars/honda/nsx/used-honda-nsx-3-0-v6-2dr-bedford-fpa-201208452632752?logcode=p

AR
27-02-2012, 12:57 PM
Well for a start it looks like things don't line up on the driver's side, so is a good start!

m666 edd
27-02-2012, 03:01 PM
As Ary says and the front shot of the bonnet looks a bit odd also when it comes to panel gaps around the lights.

No proper photos of the right hand side of the car so theres were the previous incident was no doubt.

kingsley
27-02-2012, 06:44 PM
Hi Dickf

It will be on V car due to accident damage..I would say that it has been damage at the front drivers side. No photos of the drivers side so can only suppose wing and door damage as well. Low mileage and good price for manual targa.

Kingsley

Silver Surfer
27-02-2012, 11:33 PM
It's £8K less than it would be.

As long as the chassis is straight and everything works properly and the car drives straight...the mal-ligned body panels can be sorted.

Potentially good buy for someone.......IMO...if only my garage was bigger....

SS

dickyf
28-02-2012, 10:57 AM
I would normally take a view on these matters but in this case because of the complex construction and the use of aluminium I would want some professional advice. im not sure who i would get to check the car has been repaired in accordance with the manufactures requirements....any suggestions greatly appreciated. The car is in Bedford.

thanks rich

AR
28-02-2012, 11:00 AM
Rich,

Do you think that if the outside looks like that the inside will look any better?

dickyf
28-02-2012, 11:11 AM
I don't think its possible to comment at all with any certainty without seeing the vehicle. The accident was In 2003 allowing plenty of time to pass for problems to surface. I think its worth further investigation. Speaking to the previous owner would be the most useful avenue which is why I put the OP up.

Honda in Bedford have offered to do a free heath check along with a diagnostics for a small fee. They also have a car body specialist on site 2 days a week who would have a good poke round when its on the ramp.

AR
28-02-2012, 11:30 AM
Well Rich, the pictures do speak a 1000 words. IMHO if someone does not care enough about wonky bodywork is not a good sign.

But you pay your money you take your chance.

kingsley
28-02-2012, 12:05 PM
Wise words from all....However there are not many around at the moment, low mileage ones are rare. It is worth a look, drive it, speak to last owner and the garage where the work was carried out ......at the price advertised you could have any work done and still have a good car . You can still walk away with your money in your pocket and wait for a nicer car.

Kingsley

dickyf
28-02-2012, 01:03 PM
thanks for all the comments people. I have decided its not one for me purely due to the fact the damage isn't documented or traceable as far as I can determine. I have no issue with a V car registered car especially taking into account the price difference to a non V car one. The vendor seems honest and has told me as much as he knows about the car but as I am in no desperate rush ill keep looking. once again thanks for all the assistance and comments.
NB still on the hunt for a manual pop up.

AR
28-02-2012, 01:57 PM
Great choice! Patience is the key.

Nick Graves
28-02-2012, 08:07 PM
My 2nd MX-5 looked a bit like that, but not as bad!

It's had a swipe across the OSF & things possibly the upper rail's a bit short n' down at the front. If it's simply bad panel alignment (it actually looks like it needs the bottom bolt loosening & a good shove down at the back) then it could be an easy fix.

I've seen some FLs at Chiswick that were no better though for top dollar!

It looks like it's worth a look - the rest may be tidy.

Senninha
28-02-2012, 09:30 PM
As per posts above, this could be a great project for someone .... Invest some time researching it's history, then some tlc in lining things up and you could a good NSX.

I would say that I would only take this on with long term ownership in mind

Good luck should someone take on bringing this one upto scratch

AR
29-02-2012, 10:39 AM
You have a valid point Paul.

Also how many NSX have been trashed and crashed and are not on the list!

nobby
29-02-2012, 11:21 AM
I think anyone who purchase's an NSX needs to think about it as long term ownership/project. there is always something need doin. coming up to 2 years of ownsership with my car and still doing stuff to it.

unless you want to try and make a quick buck and do a fast turnaround ... but thats not always the case either

dickyf
29-02-2012, 11:40 AM
im looking for a keeper. the main issue with the car in question for me is the inability to accurately put together a history other than servicing. I once bought a cheap Audi S8 for a winter hack and found it had been taken apart at some point and reassembled by chimps! in my experience talking to the owner has been the best route to buying good cars. service stamps don't necessarily always tell the full story....

Clambake
29-02-2012, 03:53 PM
Trader's trying to make a rapid £3,250 worth of profit. ;) And have 1500 miles really vanished from the odometer in the intervening month?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1996-HONDA-NSX-RED-/251005568842?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item3a7119074a


(http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1996-HONDA-NSX-RED-/251005568842?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item3a7119074a)

dickyf
29-02-2012, 06:44 PM
This is why i like owners forums. I have no issue with traders making profit. my opinion remains the same on the car though.

Clambake
29-02-2012, 07:47 PM
I've got no issues with somebody trying to earn a living. Just highlighting the fact that it's not the bargain it was. :)

havoc
29-02-2012, 07:47 PM
Trader's trying to make a rapid £3,250 worth of profit. ;) And have 1500 miles really vanished from the odometer in the intervening month?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1996-HONDA-NSX-RED-/251005568842?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item3a7119074a

(http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1996-HONDA-NSX-RED-/251005568842?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item3a7119074a)
If the trader's going to sort any issue's out, then as Dicky says, fair enough - the owner was obviously happy with what they got, now the trader is taking the risk.

The haircut, though, isn't so clever...seems half of the indy dealers are doing it nowadays - my S2000 reappeared soon after I sold it with 3k less miles on it!

NSXGB
29-02-2012, 08:27 PM
I would imagine the mileage difference is down to a typo. Who would bother for that many miles? More money could be made if the headlight was aligned properly.


Trader's trying to make a rapid £3,250 worth of profit. ;) And have 1500 miles really vanished from the odometer in the intervening month?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1996-HONDA-NSX-RED-/251005568842?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item3a7119074a


(http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1996-HONDA-NSX-RED-/251005568842?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item3a7119074a)

WhyOne?
29-02-2012, 08:39 PM
I agree with Simon.

1500/3000 miles is neither here nor there in terms of the cars value.

AR
29-02-2012, 09:56 PM
I agree with Simon.

1500/3000 miles is neither here nor there in terms of the cars value.

Except if it is 97K or 100K, for some reason people in the UK are allergic to cars with 100K on the clock.

Senninha
01-03-2012, 09:30 AM
Except if it is 97K or 100K, for some reason people in the UK are allergic to cars with 100K on the clock.

Probably because our parents were driving cars that they were advised would need major work at 100k miles, so the mythe began ...

Here we all know Honda engineering will comfortably double in most cases assuming a good maintenance history ... and to be fair, these days most marques would probably stand behind their product to run 200k without self destructing ... unless its Italian!

havoc
01-03-2012, 08:02 PM
... unless its Italian!

How much work has Simon George had to do to his 220k+ Murci? OK, the engine went pop just after warranty, but it was a track-car. Wondering what else it's needed...

Senninha
01-03-2012, 08:26 PM
I was thinking less exotic .. my mates 4k mile 61 plate Alfa knows its way to the service department. The latest of the faults he actualy likes ... the stop/start system has failed (and didn't work that smoothly) so he's decided not to go back to get this fixed. He will be back soon to have the gearbox oil leak fixed and one of the leccy windows that has decided to just stop responding ... I think this is what they call character?

As for the Murci, long may he keep driving it like he does ...

AR
02-03-2012, 01:11 PM
I agree Paul, 100K is nothing even for a lesser manufacturer, but sadly people still attach a stigma to it.

I still remember my old landcruiser that had about 300K, could have been more and was still going strong when it was written off by a lorry driver.

Hagasan
02-03-2012, 03:57 PM
Once all us older bods (and some older too) are all in our boxes this old landmark mileage/stigma may disappear? Still, by then folk may struggle to afford the fuel to achieve 100k anyway so it'll be no big deal...... or they'll all be scooting about in "hovercars"

Nick Graves
02-03-2012, 08:04 PM
I was thinking less exotic .. my mates 4k mile 61 plate Alfa knows its way to the service department. The latest of the faults he actualy likes ... the stop/start system has failed (and didn't work that smoothly) so he's decided not to go back to get this fixed. He will be back soon to have the gearbox oil leak fixed and one of the leccy windows that has decided to just stop responding ... I think this is what they call character?

As for the Murci, long may he keep driving it like he does ...

That's a common problem with most modern rubbish - they're less reliable than they were a decade ago, due to FREDs & high-pressure injection systems & turbos.

Even Honda Civics seem affected.