stefaneinz
29-02-2012, 08:59 PM
I would greatly appreciate some advice. My 2004, 11,000 mile NSX is in for a regular service with a Honda dealer. I asked them to look at a small issue I had noticed, which is as follows:
- When shifting up a gear at between 3,000 and 3,500 rpm, the engine seems to hold onto the revs for a second or two. So, to be precise, I dip the clutch, shift gear, but the revs stay where they were for a second or two, or until I lift the clutch when of course the revs are forced to fall
- This happens in any gear and only in this approximate rev range. So when shifting at lower or higher revs I don't notice this.
I thought this may be a characteristic of the engine mapping, although it does not seem quite right.
I had not noticed any other issues with the clutch or gearshift. I bought the car with 8,000 miles on the clock about 15 months ago, and bar this one issue it has been fine. I rev match and avoid slipping the clutch when pulling away from rest.
In any event, the dealer called me today and said that two engineers had road tested the car and identified that the clutch was, in fact, slipping. He could not tell me under what conditions, so I plan to call back tomorrow and ask to speak to the engineer(s). I find this hard to believe because I have never noticed this and I drive the car, shall we say, enthusiastically using all the throttle and revs when able and safe to do so.
Given this and the issue I have described, they are proposing to remove the gearbox and inspect the clutch and flywheel. They state this is 15 hours labour and will cost £1,000. If no issue is found, I am left with the bill no matter what (they say). To replace the clutch and flywheel (if that is what is required) will be a bill of nearly £4,000.
Now, of course, I don't know how the car was driven for its first 8,000 miles, but it seems to me that a clutch / flywheel issue at such a low mileage is very surprising.
In any event, I'd appreciate any thoughts on:
a) whether the initial problem I had identified could be anything else
b) alternatives to using this dealer for the investigative (and if required) replacement work - the cost seems exorbitant.
(The only reason I am using a Honda main dealer - who does have a good reputation apparently for NSXs - is that I still have a Honda Happiness warranty.)
Thanks in advance
Cheers
- When shifting up a gear at between 3,000 and 3,500 rpm, the engine seems to hold onto the revs for a second or two. So, to be precise, I dip the clutch, shift gear, but the revs stay where they were for a second or two, or until I lift the clutch when of course the revs are forced to fall
- This happens in any gear and only in this approximate rev range. So when shifting at lower or higher revs I don't notice this.
I thought this may be a characteristic of the engine mapping, although it does not seem quite right.
I had not noticed any other issues with the clutch or gearshift. I bought the car with 8,000 miles on the clock about 15 months ago, and bar this one issue it has been fine. I rev match and avoid slipping the clutch when pulling away from rest.
In any event, the dealer called me today and said that two engineers had road tested the car and identified that the clutch was, in fact, slipping. He could not tell me under what conditions, so I plan to call back tomorrow and ask to speak to the engineer(s). I find this hard to believe because I have never noticed this and I drive the car, shall we say, enthusiastically using all the throttle and revs when able and safe to do so.
Given this and the issue I have described, they are proposing to remove the gearbox and inspect the clutch and flywheel. They state this is 15 hours labour and will cost £1,000. If no issue is found, I am left with the bill no matter what (they say). To replace the clutch and flywheel (if that is what is required) will be a bill of nearly £4,000.
Now, of course, I don't know how the car was driven for its first 8,000 miles, but it seems to me that a clutch / flywheel issue at such a low mileage is very surprising.
In any event, I'd appreciate any thoughts on:
a) whether the initial problem I had identified could be anything else
b) alternatives to using this dealer for the investigative (and if required) replacement work - the cost seems exorbitant.
(The only reason I am using a Honda main dealer - who does have a good reputation apparently for NSXs - is that I still have a Honda Happiness warranty.)
Thanks in advance
Cheers