BRANDNEW NSX-R FRONT CHASSIS REINFORCEMENT BARS FOR SALE

[Dirk]

These bars should have every NSX.

The NSX-R chassis bars are one of the most cost effective and dramatic handling improvements that exist for your NSX.

These OEM NSX-R chassis aluminium bars increase structural rigidity increasing handling sharpness and response. Designed to eliminate dynamic toe change during aggressive driving.

The NSX-R Bars kit features two chassis strengthening reinforcement bars at the tips of the front frame rails.

Fit all NSX (Some larger aftermarket sway bars will need spacers in order to clear the chassis bars)


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Please take a look to our other threads. We offer a lot of nice stuff for your NSX.

http://www.nsxcb.co.uk/testvb/forumdisplay.php?s=&f=25&page=1&pp=20&sort=lastpost&order=desc&daysprune=-1



Two bars are available. Both bars use existing bolt locations on the chassis. The top bar crosses over the battery tray. The front bar uses included brackets to attach in front of the radiator. Minor modification including trimming radiator shroud required for installation.

Complete Kit: 249,- EURO (shipping cost to european countries 17,- Euro)

including: 1 * NSX-R REAR LOWER Chassis Reinforcement Bar (weight 0,84 kg); 1* NSX-R FRONT Chassis Reinforcement Bar (weight 0,66 kg); 2 * Brackets (weight 0,28 kg each)

[Dirk]

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[Dirk]

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[Martin]

Hi Dirk

You have 2 PMs from me.

Thanks,
Martin

[NSXGB]

....this may be a very stupid question but can this be fitted without removing the front bumper? My guess is no, but if it was, it would make it a more appealing mod.

[forumadmin]

I fitted mine without removing the bumper.

I did have to dismount the radiator and move it backwards, but that is all.

[Dirk]

I did have to dismount the radiator and move it backwards, but that is all.

Great idea. :idea:
Why didn`t it comes in my mind :shock:

Indeed, this should be the quickest way.

[Papalazarou]

Is this a worthwhile mod? i.e, does it make any noticeable difference?

Thanks,

James.

[ctrlaltdelboy]

quote from Dali Racing on these:

Front chassis braces from the NSX JDM Type-R firms up the steering response to a razors edge - think that your car turns on a dime now? - ha! add a set of these and a set of swaybars and your NSX will turn on a dime and give 9 cents change! (add in a set of TEINS, and you will get a refund)

[Senninha]

Am I understanding this correctly?

Install front chassis braces and sharpen steering. Install swaybars (are these anti-roll bars in old money?) to reduce body movement

Questions:
What happens at the rear?
Do you need additional braces/bars?
If there isn't mods to the rear will it not feel loose?
Is there any benefits in replacing suspension bushes? 8yrs / 40k

NB - I'm not looking to lower my car as I can already bottom out on some of my favourite roads, but interested in sharpening up handling.

Regards

[ctrlaltdelboy]

loose rear = more grip
tight rear = potential for more oversteer

loose front = more grip & bodyroll
tight front = less bodyroll & sharper turn-in but potential for understeer when turning under power - must learn to shift weight forward prior to making hard turns to avoid understeer

[Papalazarou]

Thanks Darren, this could be my next purchase!!!


Cheers,


James.

[Senninha]

Darren,

Thanx for the loose vs tight info (no inuendo req'd gents - that includes you James :wink: )

Could I trouble you for info ref the other Q's I raised please?

Questions:
What happens at the rear?
Do you need additional braces/bars?
Are there any benefits in replacing suspension bushes? 8yrs / 40k

I like the balance/ride of the car as it is but would like to sharpen things up and to retain F2R balance. I'm concerned that if I just install bars/braces to the front it would upset this balance.

regards and thanx in advance

[ctrlaltdelboy]

you're right - the balance would not be the same if you tightened the front and did nothing to the rear.

'balance' is the key word

the balance of how far you can push the car before grip is lost at one end or the other (front or rear) will be changed by any of a whole bunch of things you might alter including:

tyre pressures
tyre compound
weight distribution (adding a passenger/losing the spare etc etc)
shock/spring height/stiffness
swaybar stiffness (yes, anti-roll bars in British)
front tower brace
front chassis bars
rear tower brace
LSD

when you make a change in one area, thrash the car around a circuit beforehand noting at certain corners the point where grip is lost and which end is losing it.

if you find it's the front that is losing grip first and most often, then don't stiffen the front up, 'cos that will make it worse (unless you are stiffening the front and rear together)

with the Dali swaybars you get 4 mounting holes on the rear bar and 3 on the front (each side) so you can fine tune the stiffness to suit the balance of your car and your driving style/preference.

the holes nearest the ends of each bar are the loosest setting, if you want more grip at one end of the car and maintain reduced bodyroll then tighten the bar at the other end of the car; if you're not bothered about the bodyroll then you can just loosen the bar at the end you want to increase grip at.

as I say, swaybars with adjustable settings can sure help fine-tune your balance, but other factors do make a difference e.g. tyre pressures and compounds - there's no point making various adjustments to your bars whilst your pressures are all wrong, as you will undo all that work when (if!) you get then get your tyre pressures sorted. as a rule of thumb, tyres hotter in the centre are inflated too high, whilst tyres hotter at the edges are too low (one edge much hotter than the other indicates geometry is out - go to an alignment shop who knows how to align an NSX - it's very different to 'normal' cars to set up). the correct tyre pressure should have a relatively even temperature across the surface area (don't forget that the pressure rises in the tyre when hot from before you thrashed it round the track ;) )

re suspension bushes - of course new would be good, but won't really make much noticable difference. go for urethane ones rather than rubber if you do change them (maybe a group buy would be taken up on this if you fancied organising it)

sorry to go writing another book on the subject! :D

[Senninha]

Darren,

Many thanx :!:

A book maybe but clarity delivered (gosh that sounds a bit Joda ish).

Clearly this will be a very personal exercise. From the information provided I think my goal is acheivable which is to retain the ride quality of the NSX but improve the overall handling balance/precision.

The exercise will begin with the new wheel/tyre combo over the next few weeks.

Thanx again for taking the time.

regards

Paul

[ctrlaltdelboy]

I think my goal is acheivable which is to retain the ride quality of the NSX but improve the overall handling balance/precision.

you can't have your cake and eat it I'm afraid, each change that you make to make one end or the other (or both) more rigid will reduce the ride quality i.e. it will become less comfortable to cruise in - it's the (relative) 'loose-ness' that allows the imperfections in the road surface to be smoothed out before they reach your bottom.

of course, when you're caning it you won't notice at all as you'll be concentrating on other things, but as soon as you go for a nice cruise you will be reminded of the hidden 'cost' of those handling improvements.

this is the main reason I stopped using mine on the road - the work done transformed the on-track handling (which was my goal), but it was just too painful to live with the rest of the time.

[Minch]

Hi guys,

Agree with you completely Darren. I talked in length to both Mark at Dali and Graham at Plans Motorsport about exactly what I wanted to achieve i.e. a fast road car NOT a track car. The Nitron suspension set-up Plans installed for me is a very good 'compromise', but thats just what it is, a good compromise. To be honest its better than I was hoping for. The handling is sooooo much better. So much more feel (obviously I have a pre-PAS model which helps I supose). The only time you really notice the new suspension's 'harshness' is when you hit a deep pot hole as it seems to bottom out on the front suspension. I don't get the same feeling on the rear which will be a question for Graham once the NSX goes is for its follow-up tune-up. Overall I think it is probably the best option I could have gone for. I think I've leave the sway bars etc as I'm more than happy with the results.

Nathan

[kowalski]

I fitted a set of these today, took about an hour and half doing it Kevs way of moving the radiator back. Dead easy job to do. You can even get to the mounting bolts through the Rad air intake so quite easy to tighten up.

Took it for a quick drive, ride was about the same but the steering feels better. Will need to do a longer drive or take it on the track to check the full effect.

I didnt take any pics of the lower bar as its just 2 bolts and no hassle to get too.

leigh

[Nick Graves]

I've got front & rear lower ones & an upper front on the S2000.

It benefits the steering feel slightly (an area where the NSX is ahead on standard) improves the ride (ditto) & makes the breakaway transition far easier to detect.

I think my S' steering feel is on a par now with the NSX (EPS) system.

So I'd seriously recommend tham as a cheap & easily reversible first mod for the NSXs.

[Papalazarou]

Just fitted mine and I was pleasantly surprised. It feels that 'important bit sharper' and low speed turn-in and weight is much improved. In fact any-speed turn-in and steering weight are much improved.
I never thought that a few well placed bars could make so much difference.
I have to say that it's very close to the car I want now and I haven't fitted the anti roll bar yet!
This is surely a must for any Targa owner. 5/5.


Cheers,

James.

[NSXGB]

....if you haven't fitted the roll bar yet, the best is yet to come.

I noticed more of a transformation once the RB was fitted, and the RB clears the bottom Type R brace with plenty of room to spare.

[kowalski]

Glad you got them fitted ok James, and that you like the improvement. Totally agree that its one of the best mods to do to the NSX, and again wait till youve tried it with the Anti Rol Bars.

Leigh